Desotodav Posted June 24, 2012 Report Posted June 24, 2012 I've only seen car motors with the sump pan at the back Mark. I don't reckon you can flip it around - so you might have to swap it. Depends on how badly your drag link hits it the sump - you can rotate the drag link a little and tighten it on the tie-rod nuts in a position to gain a small bit more clearance. A quick comparison for you in the attached photos. 1st photo is my 52 Desoto truck engine when we first pulled it, and 2nd photo is a 54 Desoto car engine that I recently acquired. Desotodav Quote
ggdad1951 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Posted June 24, 2012 I've only seen car motors with the sump pan at the back Mark. I don't reckon you can flip it around - so you might have to swap it. Depends on how badly your drag link hits it the sump - you can rotate the drag link a little and tighten it on the tie-rod nuts in a position to gain a small bit more clearance.A quick comparison for you in the attached photos. 1st photo is my 52 Desoto truck engine when we first pulled it, and 2nd photo is a 54 Desoto car engine that I recently acquired. Desotodav what in the name of washington's cherries did they do to my truck way back when? I know the engine has been swapped so maybe they swapped in a car motor. BIG question: same basic motor but different sump and pan so I can just swap out parts and be ok? Sounds like another winter project! Quote
Young Ed Posted June 24, 2012 Report Posted June 24, 2012 Nah thats a quick afternoon project. Once you get the new one painted and ready to go of course. We can attempt to reverse mine to a rear sump and if it works that way it should work the other way for you. Or you can just trade my correct #'d engine for that one in your truck pans and all Oh and I KNEW I should have taken a picture of the Badger tent that was just down the street from you. Quote
52b3b Joe Posted June 24, 2012 Report Posted June 24, 2012 I had to swap out my pan for a front sump too. The industrial engine in mine was to the back, just swap the pick-up tube, pan, and call it a day! Quote
ggdad1951 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Posted June 24, 2012 Nah thats a quick afternoon project. Once you get the new one painted and ready to go of course. We can attempt to reverse mine to a rear sump and if it works that way it should work the other way for you. Or you can just trade my correct #'d engine for that one in your truck pans and all Oh and I KNEW I should have taken a picture of the Badger tent that was just down the street from you. no picture = no proof! All hearsay! See ya at the show today, gonna find your vehicle after swap meetin'. I had to swap out my pan for a front sump too. The industrial engine in mine was to the back, just swap the pick-up tube, pan, and call it a day! good to know from both of you it's a simple swap! Now I just gotta drive careful till I get the parts and time to swap! Quote
Merle Coggins Posted June 25, 2012 Report Posted June 25, 2012 just for Merle...I had to include the Vikes tent next to me from the people from WisconSIN! Must be transplants. No native Wisconsinite would dare fly those colors. Oh and I KNEW I should have taken a picture of the Badger tent that was just down the street from you. Thanks Ed. It's good to hear he was in good company. Quote
Young Ed Posted June 25, 2012 Report Posted June 25, 2012 no picture = no proof! All hearsay! See ya at the show today, gonna find your vehicle after swap meetin'.good to know from both of you it's a simple swap! Now I just gotta drive careful till I get the parts and time to swap! I was thinking I can't believe no one else noticed so I flipped back through the thread. All the frame pictures are from an angle that doesn't show which end the sump is on! Quote
ggdad1951 Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Posted June 30, 2012 heater box controls in and electric wipers all installed before the heat hits today beauty shot from the 50's show Quote
ggdad1951 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Report Posted July 10, 2012 some new pictures from Dave...I pick up Saturday! Quote
ggdad1951 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Report Posted July 14, 2012 Dave is a witch I tell ya, a WITCH! He got a tired old truck looking like brand new! Picked up all the black today....DANG good work, I can't say how pleased I am with Dave! THANKS SOOOO MUCH! X-mas came early today: Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted July 15, 2012 Report Posted July 15, 2012 Mark; More like a Wizard I'd say. Very.....very nice Dave. Jeff Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 15, 2012 Report Posted July 15, 2012 well, removal is a good learning curve..hopefully going back the units were cleaned and lubed properly with new channels and wipers..your outlook is thus a bit cheerier as progress is being made on that special project.... Quote
Don Boger Posted July 15, 2012 Report Posted July 15, 2012 wow, I wish my tailgate was that straight! the more I see the black beds, the more I am thinking on painting mine black, even though the truck is going to be Matador Red. Truck is looking great. Quote
John-T-53 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) Are you gonna start building a new collection of farm stickers on the tailgate, like it was when you got it? Lookin' good! Edited July 15, 2012 by John-T-53 Quote
Dave72dt Posted July 15, 2012 Report Posted July 15, 2012 There's no magic involved, just a lot of hours. It's been a long ten months, and I've learned a bunch from it that I can apply to the next project. Thanks for the compliments. I enjoyed doing it, even my wife says I did and she graciously gave up her parking spot in the garage a few nights when things were spread out and in paint. Like the rest of you, I look forward to seeing the truck completed, and then again, in person. Quote
pflaming Posted July 15, 2012 Report Posted July 15, 2012 That truck and BED are too awesome to risk driving. It reminds me of this antedote: A preacher put his assistant in charge and took Sunday off to golf. Gabrial asked God if he could take charge and was granted permission. The preacher had a great day which included an hole-in-one. God chided Gabriel for allowing such to which Gabriel replied, "I did the correct thing, who is he going to tell?" Looking forward to the final product. Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted July 15, 2012 Report Posted July 15, 2012 Dave; I have a question for you. Did you go down to bare metal on all of it? The cab is off and I've just started prepping the sheet metal on my truck. There is no cancer and only a very small amount of actual bodywork to do. I have started by cleaning up the old primer with 180 & 220. In some areas I am down to bare metal but in others there seems to be a good base. Do you think it is a bad idea to leave some of the old primer and paint? To put this into perspective I am not trying to build a show truck. I think at this point that I am going to attempt to paint it myself. Nothing fancy just a decent work truck paint job. Probably a light tan. If I get a few sags or orange peel areas it is not the end of the world. Thanks, Jeff Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted July 15, 2012 Report Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) I think you are going to need a 24/7 security team to protect your truck. It's probably the nicest one I have ever seen. I noticed you have no Bulls Eye headlamps though! That truck deserves them for sure. Bob Edited August 7, 2012 by Dodgeb4ya Quote
Dave72dt Posted July 15, 2012 Report Posted July 15, 2012 Dave;I have a question for you. Did you go down to bare metal on all of it? The cab is off and I've just started prepping the sheet metal on my truck. There is no cancer and only a very small amount of actual bodywork to do. I have started by cleaning up the old primer with 180 & 220. In some areas I am down to bare metal but in others there seems to be a good base. Do you think it is a bad idea to leave some of the old primer and paint? Thanks, Jeff Everything was down to bare steel. Some parts that had multiple layers were taken apart like the rivet areas on the front fenders. The bracket looked decent but that area has a double thickness and rust about rusted through between the layers. Some areas that looked like it had solid paint really wasn't. Rust was growing underneath the paint. It's not necesarily a bad idea to leave whats solid but I always wonder what it's hiding, especially on something this old and it's a lot of work feathering that paint back to get it level. 90 % of any good paint job is the prep. The best application of paint in the world won't cover up poor prep. Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted July 15, 2012 Report Posted July 15, 2012 Dave; Well you did a beautiful job. And believe me I have a pretty good idea of how hard you worked on Marks' truck. Rust on this truck of mine is not nearly as bad as what you had to deal with. I have found some starburst type rust under the primer on the exterior of the cab. Nothing deep but it does appear in some areas. I guess it will have to get cleaned up. Jeff Quote
48Dodger Posted July 16, 2012 Report Posted July 16, 2012 The best application of paint in the world won't cover up poor prep. Amen bruther...... Awesome looking truck Mark....takes a lot to pull it all together like that! 48D Quote
ggdad1951 Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Posted July 24, 2012 $50 paint job for the lettering! 1 Quote
Young Ed Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 WOW I would totally spend $50 to have that done to my tailgate! Quote
Desotodav Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Beautiful - money well spent!!! Desotodav Quote
HanksB3B Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Well then, just buy the guy an airline ticket, I'm sure he'd love to see your beautiful country. Hank Quote
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