PT81PlymouthPickup Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 I can hardly believe I found this engine advertised on Craigslist. It was in the back of a service station brand new still in crate from Chrysler listed as military surplus. The fellow who sold it to me said his dad bought back in the 1960s? This Mopar flat-head 230 turns over easily, complete with manifolds, carburetor, distributor, water pump, generator, starter, flywheel, and bell housing. I had been looking for a good core for rebuilding in case the one in my 39 PT81 ever failed catastrophically. It's doubtful I will need it, but I couldn't pass this up for $1500. If I could identify what this was intended to fit, I might sell the NOS parts that will not fit my truck. I must admit, it almost breaks my heart to this. I imagine it may have been intended for Dodge Power Wagons of some sort? I think these engines were used in some pretty big military vehicles? T2I4SR-4488 Not sure if the I is a one or a capital i ? Looks like a capital i in photo. Anyone have any way of identifying what this would have been installed in? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 WC-51, WC-52, WC-53, WC-54, WC-55, WC-56, WC-57, WC-58, WC-59, WC-60, WC-61, WC-64 1942-1945 also good news its listed as a 230 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 That is just awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PT81PlymouthPickup Posted January 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 Thanks Ed! Makes me want to buy a WC to go with this engine. I imagine the later replacement engines for these trucks were all 230s? I believe the original engines in the 42-45s would have been 201s or 218s? I knew this engine would fit in my truck because it was the shorter version at 23 inch long. I think the Mopar flat heads with larger displacements up to 265hp had 25 inch long blocks? Thanks for the information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PT81PlymouthPickup Posted January 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, ggdad1951 said: That is just awesome Thanks! I thought so too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 55 minutes ago, PT81PlymouthPickup said: Thanks Ed! Makes me want to buy a WC to go with this engine. I imagine the later replacement engines for these trucks were all 230s? I believe the original engines in the 42-45s would have been 201s or 218s? I knew this engine would fit in my truck because it was the shorter version at 23 inch long. I think the Mopar flat heads with larger displacements up to 265hp had 25 inch long blocks? Thanks for the information not sure what the military stuff had. Now if you're going shopping my recommendation would be a command car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shepard Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Vintage Power Wagons could probably tell you all you want to know about this engine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Or maybe Midwest Military? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDeSoto Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 A couple days ago I was asking about a heat shield to guard against vapor lock. I see the fuel line on this engine is the same as mine - straight up past the manifold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Coggins Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) That’s a pretty typical fuel line routing. You can also see the fuel pump heat shield in that photo. Edited January 6, 2020 by Merle Coggins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shepard Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 When I installed cast iron headers the heat shield wouldn't fit, nor would the stock fuel line (metal). I'm running a rubber fuel line and I made it long enough to get away from the headers. So far I haven't had any issues with heat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-T-53 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Wow just wow. Is there any oil in the sump? It would be interesting to pull the tappet covers and see what it looks like on the inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rogers Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Congratulations on an awesome find. Very cool ! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48Dodger Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Looks purty. 48D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minicooper Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 That is amazing! Makes one wonder how many of those are still out there, all crated up - like that scene at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark where there's a giant govt warehouse full of crated flatheads... -Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, minicooper said: That is amazing! Makes one wonder how many of those are still out there, all crated up - like that scene at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark where there's a giant govt warehouse full of crated flatheads... -Roland dun da dun DA, dun da dun, dun da da DA! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony WestOZ Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 Looks to be an interesting engine. I have never seen carb inlet or a water outlet like those. T214 is for 1942-45 but SR has me intrigued. Wander if its for something else Dodge supplied engine to. I understand how NOS engines can be a bit confusing. Mine had no engine number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffsunzeri Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 Most likely an M37 replacement engine. What voltage is the generator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 My block on FEF has no number either. Likely a replacement block/engine. But I also know in his first life he was in an accident and things got repaired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg g Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Truck as stated,sealed oil fill tube, pcv from valve galley to intake, carb fitting for snorkel? To bad the dist is covered. Is it a water proffed one? Some of these were set up for short bursts of submerged running, they would carry on as long as the snorkel was still sucking air. Slotted for driving up the beach from a lcv during amphib landings and for fording rivers and streams after bridges were blown by retreating enemy. Note the air intake at the top of the wind screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kencombs Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/5/2020 at 12:08 PM, PT81PlymouthPickup said: Are those flathead screws retaining the core plug? Do the others have that also? Good idea for those that doubt their ability to get a good expansion only lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBNeal Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 On 1/5/2020 at 12:08 PM, PT81PlymouthPickup said: I can hardly believe I found this engine advertised on Craigslist. It was in the back of a service station brand new still in crate from Chrysler listed as military surplus. The fellow who sold it to me said his dad bought back in the 1960s? This Mopar flat-head 230 turns over easily, complete with manifolds, carburetor, distributor, water pump, generator, starter, flywheel, and bell housing. I had been looking for a good core for rebuilding in case the one in my 39 PT81 ever failed catastrophically. It's doubtful I will need it, but I couldn't pass this up for $1500. If I could identify what this was intended to fit, I might sell the NOS parts that will not fit my truck. I must admit, it almost breaks my heart to this. I imagine it may have been intended for Dodge Power Wagons of some sort? I think these engines were used in some pretty big military vehicles? T2I4SR-4488 Not sure if the I is a one or a capital i ? Looks like a capital i in photo. Anyone have any way of identifying what this would have been installed in? Did this engine find its way into a WC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg g Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 The red tag on the gen is 12 v. Don't know when millitary went to 12v, but it suggests 56 or newer, I'd it not a military rebuiild. There was a bunch of military 230 crate motors on the market a few years back. Ther were surpluses my Israel's forces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 9 hours ago, greg g said: The red tag on the gen is 12 v. Don't know when millitary went to 12v, but it suggests 56 or newer, I'd it not a military rebuiild. There was a bunch of military 230 crate motors on the market a few years back. Ther were surpluses my Israel's forces. Isn't that backwards? Red 6v green 12v? Not sure what color the military 24vstuff is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kencombs Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, Young Ed said: Isn't that backwards? Red 6v green 12v? Not sure what color the military 24vstuff is That is correct in my experience. All the red have been green and had the narrow belt pulley on the gens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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