Bingster Posted August 2, 2023 Report Posted August 2, 2023 I've pretty much been persuaded to buy new brake cylinders for my '47 DeSoto. Anybody buy them from Mopar Pro? Quote
desoto1939 Posted August 2, 2023 Report Posted August 2, 2023 If you purchase new wheel cylinders plan on using the old push pins. The newer push pins for some reason are now longer than the original and then you will have a hard time getting the drums back on. Also always keep the old wheel cylinder parts. Rich hartung 1 Quote
FarmerJon Posted August 2, 2023 Report Posted August 2, 2023 If you are going to use China made ones, why not buy the ones from rock auto? 1 Quote
Los_Control Posted August 2, 2023 Report Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) I only have a opinion, as far as I can tell the parts are made overseas. All the major supply houses buy them from the same place. Unless moparpro makes their very own wheel cylinders ..... you are buying the same product from different suppliers. https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/desoto,1947,s-11,3.9l+237cid+l6,1486599,brake+&+wheel+hub,wheel+cylinder,1952 Looking at the list available, I see ACDELCO sells them for your vehicle .... I do trust them. ..... just a opinion. Edited August 2, 2023 by Los_Control Quote
Bingster Posted August 2, 2023 Author Report Posted August 2, 2023 Well, I got a pretty good sell job from the guy at Mopar Pro about all of the testing his cylinders go through and such. Something like 400 check points. He said it was a waste of time to try and rebuild old cylinders, and when I said that the China-made cylinders get a bad rap, he said that he did the engineering of the cylinders he sells. $150 for all four fronts. I have no idea if he gets his made overseas. Quote
Bingster Posted August 2, 2023 Author Report Posted August 2, 2023 I see what you mean by the Rock Auto cylinders. For $40.00 it seems like you get a pretty good cylinder out-of-the-box. I'm probably making too big a deal out of this. Quote
Los_Control Posted August 2, 2023 Report Posted August 2, 2023 Moparpro is a new company, only thing I've heard about them is they are over priced. ..... They need to be good sales people. I have never heard anything bad about their product ...... A fuel tank for my vehicle is over $600 from them .... Tanks.com I get it for $300 & good quality .... been selling them for many many years. I think I suggested earlier to grab some new ones from rockauto to get going ..... then spend $200 getting your originals professionally rebuilt with SS sleeves when is not such a drain on time or budget. Quote
Bingster Posted August 2, 2023 Author Report Posted August 2, 2023 Yeah, I think that's the ticket. Quote
Young Ed Posted August 2, 2023 Report Posted August 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, Los_Control said: Moparpro is a new company, only thing I've heard about them is they are over priced. ..... They need to be good sales people. I have never heard anything bad about their product ...... A fuel tank for my vehicle is over $600 from them .... Tanks.com I get it for $300 & good quality .... been selling them for many many years. I think I suggested earlier to grab some new ones from rockauto to get going ..... then spend $200 getting your originals professionally rebuilt with SS sleeves when is not such a drain on time or budget. New company with an owner who was a member here and left a bad taste for a lot of us back then 1 Quote
Bingster Posted August 2, 2023 Author Report Posted August 2, 2023 Reason why? Without going into detail. Quote
DJ194950 Posted August 2, 2023 Report Posted August 2, 2023 On Ebay - Mike- (the owner on now Moparpro, has had at least 4-5 different names on that site. You used to be able to see all the past names a EBay seller has used but last I checked that feature has been gone a while. Not because the buyers (us) did not like it, but I'm sure many sellers hated being followed over their sales tactics thru the years. DJ 1 Quote
Los_Control Posted August 2, 2023 Report Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, Young Ed said: New company with an owner who was a member here and left a bad taste for a lot of us back then I understand that .... there are many here with harsh feelings towards them. .... I simply was not here or not paying attention .... I just have no personal experience with them. I can only say that the mention of the name moparpro leaves a bad taste in my mouth .... requires another beer to wash it out. Talk about them all you want ? ? 1 Quote
Solution bacelaw Posted August 3, 2023 Solution Report Posted August 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Bingster said: Got it! I had a couple bad experiences very recently with Moparpro and Mike himself. I wound up cleaning up my wheel cylinders myself with light sanding, and new internals. If you ask me, old wheel cylinders are absolutely worth rebuilding. Roberts Parts (Newbury Massachusetts), has tons of reproduction parts and they couldn't be nicer people. 2 Quote
Bingster Posted August 3, 2023 Author Report Posted August 3, 2023 Roberts. Yeah, I remember them Thanks. Quote
keithb7 Posted August 3, 2023 Report Posted August 3, 2023 @BingsterThis site is full of nice friendly folks who want to help you. A few people have said here be careful and have not flat out said why. Reason is they are so polite. I'll be a little more blunt. I suggest moving-on, avoiding the seller you named. I and some close contacts of mine have been stung. 1 Quote
Bryan G Posted August 3, 2023 Report Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) I needed an unobtainum widget for my car. Seller listed it, reproduction. Arrived unusable. Replacement, after a less than apologetic note, was likewise unusable. I now have two doorstops. Fixed the old one with JB Weld. Now, there is a company that doesn't let you down The Rock Auto cylinders work. Same experience as desoto1939 when it comes to the pins. But, they go in and out and don't leak. Edited August 3, 2023 by Bryan G Quote
Young Ed Posted August 3, 2023 Report Posted August 3, 2023 And if you want to spend a little more (or maybe a lot) have your originals sleeved. Few places that do it- brake and equipment warehouse is my go to because they happen to be local to me and do great work 2 Quote
harmony Posted August 3, 2023 Report Posted August 3, 2023 I agree with Keith. I phoned Mopar Pro a couple years ago and happened to talk to the owner. I wanted to know why a particular part was twice as expensive as his competitors. He got offended and started to raise his voice because my enquiry may have suggested he was making too much of a profit for the same part. He said he stood behind the quality of his parts 100 %. I then asked about his return policy if I wasn't satisfied. He detected from my "accent" I guess, that I was Canadian. He then said that I sounded like I was going to be an "expensive customer" Raising his voice even more. Then said he wouldn't be selling me anything and promptly hung up the phone. At least he was right about that. 2 2 Quote
Bingster Posted August 3, 2023 Author Report Posted August 3, 2023 I was wondering when the old cylinders are re-sleeved, what's used for pistons? Quote
TodFitch Posted August 3, 2023 Report Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Bingster said: I was wondering when the old cylinders are re-sleeved, what's used for pistons? Some vendors use stainless steel for sleeving, some use brass. I don’t know if one is really better or worse than the other and I don’t know if being sleeved makes a difference on the piston material. That said, when my cylinders were sleeved with brass they were built up with standard aluminum pistons. That vendor has retired with no one buying the business so I can’t recommend them. But the cylinders have been in use on my car for quite a few years now with no problems. Quote
motoMark Posted August 3, 2023 Report Posted August 3, 2023 9 hours ago, Young Ed said: And if you want to spend a little more (or maybe a lot) have your originals sleeved. Few places that do it- brake and equipment warehouse is my go to because they happen to be local to me and do great work A+ on Brake and Equipment. They did a great job sleeving my master cylinder and would certainly do business with them again if needed. 1 Quote
Ivan_B Posted August 3, 2023 Report Posted August 3, 2023 8 hours ago, Bingster said: I was wondering when the old cylinders are re-sleeved, what's used for pistons? Either new ones, or the old ones. The rubber seal is what does all of the hydraulic work. The piston just keeps it in place and a firm shape, it is not quite the same as the ones in the engine. 10 hours ago, harmony said: Then said he wouldn't be selling me anything and promptly hung up the phone. This thread must've collected a record amount of replies in one day I am not personally familiar with the "subject" matter, but i do "like" those people in the business of making favors so much! They are only rarely surpassed by folks in the business of big favors... Always surprises me how do you stay profitable with this kind of attitude. Quote
Curt Lee Posted August 3, 2023 Report Posted August 3, 2023 Proof that building a good reputation may take years but ruining one only takes a minute. If you're in business to serve customers, you have to have that mindset; you're SERVING their needs, not being interrupted in your daily routine by them. I sell parts for a living; my customers, aggravating as they CAN be, are still my bread and butter. 1 Quote
Bingster Posted August 3, 2023 Author Report Posted August 3, 2023 I would think brass is a softer metal than stainless and so might wear quicker, but the difference is undoubtedly negligible. Quote
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