41/53dodges Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Think I can still save it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41/53dodges Posted July 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 sorry, photos wouldnt upload Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alshere59 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Well my opinion. Fan no. Radiator maybe but very expensive. So what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Balazs Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Looks like the fan bolts sheared.....is that what happened? Sorry to see this. Carnage is a fitting description. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41/53dodges Posted July 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) took it out for a test run, pulled onto the road and hit the gas, suddenly water hit the windshield! not sure why it did that, the radiator and everything was still bolted up nicely to the frame. And yes, the fan was still attached as it was supposed to be. the radiator just came back into the fan for whatever odd reason Edited July 30, 2013 by 41/53dodges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave72dt Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 I think you found the reason it was overheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Bad motor mounts? Your engine jumped forward when you revved it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alshere59 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 The fan bolts are not sheared from what I can see. The rear motor mounts "should" keep it in place. So have to agree with the op the radiator seems to have came back into the fan. Have you ever worked on the radiator? Was the lower radiator support loose maybe? Seems to have hit the top. Very strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41/53dodges Posted July 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 This was the radiator we had adapted into my PH. it worked, but not for truck duty. never had an issue in the last 400 miles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave72dt Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 I see what appears to be 2 bolts in the fan with spacers on them. Is that how the fan was attached? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 All the history is required before diaganostics. Is this a new thread on an old issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41/53dodges Posted July 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) Had all four in, just dropped two of them removing it, but it had those four spacers put it and tightened down nicely. Actually this is a new issue! never had this happen before or any sign of it, but it was likely the entire front clip shifting, it seems a tad unstable right now. I'l find the issue, for now enjoy the picture! Edited July 30, 2013 by 41/53dodges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave72dt Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) Those spacers were your problem. A proper spacer would have been solid. Without the additional support a solid spacer provides, a fan puts a lot of torsional force on the bolts and will break them off with a setup like you had. It's like wiggling a solid wire back and forth creating a weak spot that will eventually break the wire. Disregard, further reading and comprehension on my part indicated the fan was still bolted to the water pump at the time but I still think it should have a single solid spacer instead of 4. Edited July 30, 2013 by Dave72dt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1B Keven Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Interested in a used stock radiator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Also how is your water pump? A bad water pump can allow the fan to move forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P15-D24 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Also how is your water pump? A bad water pump can allow the fan to move forward. +1, bad water pump will allow enough movement to hit the radiator. Usually it gives you a little warning (ting, ting, ting sound) before major failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Coatney Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 took it out for a test run, pulled onto the road and hit the gas, suddenly water hit the windshield! not sure why it did that, the radiator and everything was still bolted up nicely to the frame. And yes, the fan was still attached as it was supposed to be. the radiator just came back into the fan for whatever odd reason Had all four in, just dropped two of them removing it, but it had those four spacers put it and tightened down nicely. Actually this is a new issue! never had this happen before or any sign of it, but it was likely the entire front clip shifting, it seems a tad unstable right now. I'l find the issue, for now enjoy the picture! Am I to assume after reading all the fine print you did not have the radiator and front clipp correctly secured when you went for a drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41/53dodges Posted July 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) It was all bolted down properly, but after 5 minutes of driving its really unstable now... plus It looks to me like the adapter brackets also bent back allowing the radiator to be eaten Edited July 30, 2013 by 41/53dodges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg g Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Well since you didn't ask a question or seek a diagnosis, I guess you are just looking for some commiseration. Based on that I will contribute a "HOLY CRAP!!!!'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41/53dodges Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Well since you didn't ask a question or seek a diagnosis, I guess you are just looking for some commiseration. Based on that I will contribute a "HOLY CRAP!!!!'' Posted all for your entertainment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgeb4ya Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 What lesson is to be learned from this disastrous short test run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plymouthy Adams Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) check to ensure all is right and fitted prior to engaging any gear..static running am sure the man never saw any adverse movement.. one of the very reasons I have not test fired my power plant since install into the coupe...the fenders must be in place to position and hold fixed the radiator shell very important as they will lean in at the top toward the fan...if one must run without the fenders ensure the rad shell is stationary with some angle iron or suitable sub for the purpose of fixing it fast in position. Edited July 31, 2013 by Plymouthy Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Balazs Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 The stock radiator mount on my truck kept things stationary just fine without the front clip. I ran it quite a bit and drove it around some without any sign of movement. I have to think that something had been very seriously modified to allow for this kind of movement. If the stock support is installed properly It certainly isn't likely to move about this much. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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