Jocko_51_B3B Posted October 13, 2019 Report Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) A previous owner hacked up the sheetmetal behind both of my marker lights. Why? Who knows? As a result, I have no idea how the sheetmetal should be behind the marker lights or how the marker light wiring and sockets should project through the sheet metal. Also, did Dodge use a grommet to seal out water where the wiring comes through the sheetmetal? Can someone with a 51 - 53 Pilothouse post a good photo of the sheetmetal behind the markers? Once I know how it should look, I'll weld up the hole damage, figure out how the wiring goes through, drill a new right-sizedhole for the wires/sockets, and then repaint the damaged areas. I should have just fixed it from the get-go. Driver Side From Front of Grill... Driver Side From Back of Grill... Passenger Side From Back of Grill With Marker Light Installed... Edited October 13, 2019 by Jocko_51_B3B Quote
NiftyFifty Posted October 13, 2019 Report Posted October 13, 2019 They just had a 1” hole in the centre of the dish to allow the wires through. When I stripped all the bars off my 51 front I just used penny amber lights in the original holes 1 Quote
ggdad1951 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Posted October 14, 2019 As Nifty said, just a hole in the "center" to have the wires come out. My guess is they used a different light and they wacked those areas out to get it to fit. 1 Quote
JBNeal Posted October 14, 2019 Report Posted October 14, 2019 No grommet was used for the wires...my 2 cents, if this extra ventilation opening is covered after final assembly, I wouldn't lose any sleep over that imperfection, cuz life is too short to try to fix all of the imperfections in the world 1 Quote
Los_Control Posted October 14, 2019 Report Posted October 14, 2019 My 2 cents, with all the damage. Now would be a good time to search for a 1948-1950 complete nose and install it 1 Quote
Young Ed Posted October 14, 2019 Report Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, JBNeal said: No grommet was used for the wires...my 2 cents, if this extra ventilation opening is covered after final assembly, I wouldn't lose any sleep over that imperfection, cuz life is too short to try to fix all of the imperfections in the world agreed it looks like the panel is already painted and the holes won't hurt anything. You can fix them next repaint 1 Quote
ggdad1951 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Posted October 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Los_Control said: My 2 cents, with all the damage. Now would be a good time to search for a 1948-1950 complete nose and install it .....but its a B3/4.... Quote
Los_Control Posted October 14, 2019 Report Posted October 14, 2019 45 minutes ago, ggdad1951 said: ....but its a B3/4.... It is not the trucks fault it was born later and ugly. Seriously just joking, there will always be some rivalry between the B 1-2, & B 3-4 owners. As others stated above, at this stage is not worth fixing, will cause no harm and think it may be hidden from any view when assembled. 1 Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 14, 2019 Report Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, ggdad1951 said: .....but its a B3/4.... yes and the reason it should be addressed next go around...lol 1 Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 14, 2019 Report Posted October 14, 2019 while not a B3/4 my current project I just uncovered a nasty array of jury rigging and selection of some of the worst choice of hardware ever to assemble a light fixture on a vehicle. So...yeah....the POs will get you in the long run....I have never ever been able to figure out the why and wherefore of so many things done wrong on car/trucks except to say that they deem it not worth the time and trouble to do things correct and proper. Found two welds holding on a fender that calls for NO welds also. I cannot figure out why on the welds either...I am not sure if these repairs were made stateside or when the vehicle was in New Zealand. 1 1 Quote
Jocko_51_B3B Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) The thing that started bugging me about the hacked out metal was the question of water getting into the marker lights. But if there was a 1 inch open hole from the factory anyway, I might just live with it. Then again, knowing me, maybe not. Shoulda fixed it right away. Edited October 16, 2019 by Jocko_51_B3B Quote
Brent B3B Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) On 10/15/2019 at 7:18 PM, Jocko_51_B3B said: The thing that started bugging me about the hacked out metal was the question of water getting into the marker lights. But if there was a 1 inch open hole from the factory anyway, I might just live with it. Then again, knowing me, maybe not. Shoulda fixed it right away. i feel your pain Glenn..... Edited October 17, 2019 by Brent B3B spelling- thanks again "auto correct"!, photo's removed 2 Quote
Brent B3B Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 2:09 PM, Los_Control said: It is not the trucks fault it was born later and ugly. Seriously just joking, there will always be some rivalry between the B 1-2, & B 3-4 owners. As others stated above, at this stage is not worth fixing, will cause no harm and think it may be hidden from any view when assembled. i know of several B1/2 owners that also own B3/4's hmmmm, i suspect someone is trying to start some sort of rivalry ? Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 B1/2 trucks.....the flat nose series... I decided to move into the B3/4 trucks as I couldn't stand all the attention my 48 flat nose was getting.......that from the dogs peeing on it's tires.? They never bothered the B3's.. Oh a pic of the park lamp cable into the housing... 1 1 Quote
ggdad1951 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Brent B3B said: i know of several B1/2 owners that also own B3/4's hmmmm, i suspect someone is trying to start some sort of rivalry ? There is no rivalry, we all know the B3 is the superior design. 1 Quote
48Dodger Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 39 minutes ago, ggdad1951 said: There is no rivalry, we all know the B3 is the superior design. We know NOTHING of the sort. 48-50Dodger!!!!!!!! 1 1 Quote
JBNeal Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 I've got a yard decorated with one of each... B-1s that have that rad.brace that doubles as a bridle bit when checking the brake fluid, B-3s that have hoods that tear because of inadequate bracing...this contrived competition is like watching two bald guys fight over a comb 2 Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 I've never seen a bald guy ever part with a comb...! 1 Quote
ggdad1951 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 39 minutes ago, Plymouthy Adams said: I've never seen a bald guy ever part with a comb...! BWAH...BWah....bwah... Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, ggdad1951 said: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ah ah...is this a bald person responding...….? I do have a general question....if you have been combing your hair since as a child in the same style...does it become a comb over just because you start losing hair...…??? Quote
Young Ed Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, ggdad1951 said: There is no rivalry, we all know the B3 is the superior design. Everyone knows they finally got it right with the B4 and the superior rear fender design! 1 Quote
Jocko_51_B3B Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Posted October 16, 2019 The re-designed dash and the "Job Rated" medallion in the grill clearly favor the '51 B3 over all the other Pilothouse models because it was first to implement these tremendously artistic improvements! I've heard they even make the engine run a little smoother and use less gas too! 1 Quote
Brent B3B Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 Glenn, dodgeb4ya's photo makes me think if you don't end up fixing the hole size, you might either cover it some how or check behind the marker housing periodically for debris build up. even with the hole the correct size, I am always surprised how much debris finds its way back there.... Quote
ggdad1951 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Young Ed said: Everyone knows they finally got it right with the B4 and the superior rear fender design! you mean the ugly "square" version where they slapped it on over the sheet metal bed sides they did not change... Quote
Jocko_51_B3B Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Posted October 16, 2019 Brent, Thanks. That's good to know. That's why I was thinking about a grommet or a plug of some kind to help seal the hole. You must have had an old beat up grill to get the patch you used. Looks like that worked pretty well. Unfortunately I don't have an extra grill but it shouldn't be too hard to patch the "dish". Glenn Quote
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