How i changed her mind about Organic Foods

[rustytrusty47]

so here is my little-o niece talking about organic foods and farm raised chicken,fish and so on..

 

nothing wrong with that, if you want to spend the extra dollar go right ahead.

 

First i made her gage when i told her what do you think farm raised chickens eat?? roaches and worms.. so she will never buy that one anymore.. check that one off her "Organic list".

 

Now i moved on to veggies, i told her they use chicken/cow manure to make things grow good and some of that manure comes from non organic farms that feeds there animals grain. so i told her there is no 100% organic things now n days its all a crock off crap, i also said dont eat to much french fries from those fast foods, she asked why... hello the fries never turn brown wonder why??

 

and i went on and on, i also said you think the air you breath is organic,and the water we drink also comes from lake mead the great lake that they let idiots with leaky oily boats and jet skies in..... no way!!

 

the last time ive seen her was in smiths buying non organic foods and there kroger brand water instead of her figi or evian that i used to see her with all the time.... lol i guess my work is done!!

 

 

 

[Ulu]

Thank god you didn't tell her what's in a hot dog!  

[ledfootslim]

Haha- I was saying something at work about eating cow tongue tacos and the teenage waitress' were of course gagging and carrying on... then I asked them if they ate hot dogs and if they knew that there was tongue and everything else you could think of chopped up in there. Nobody laughed after that 

[ggdad1951]

not to also note that "organic" is a non regulated term for the most part and that most of them still use herbicides and pesticides for the plants and antibiotics for the animals.  It's all smoke and mirrors.  

 

Don't even get me started on the waste of bottled water.  A home RO system will give you FREE clean water without having to process and ship what is really only filtered city water they stuff into bottles and call "mountain fresh" or "spring clear".  Oh, and also produce the plastic for the stupid bottles.  Yes, I know this because I used to be an engineer for a water filtration company.  Bottled water is a farce and sometimes your tap water is actually better!

[Don Coatney]

not to also note that "organic" is a non regulated term for the most part and that most of them still use herbicides and pesticides for the plants and antibiotics for the animals.  It's all smoke and mirrors.  

 

Don't even get me started on the waste of bottled water.  A home RO system will give you FREE clean water without having to process and ship what is really only filtered city water they stuff into bottles and call "mountain fresh" or "spring clear".  Oh, and also produce the plastic for the stupid bottles.  Yes, I know this because I used to be an engineer for a water filtration company.  Bottled water is a farce and sometimes your tap water is actually better!

I agree with the water farce. I once worked for a dairy that installed a water bottling line. Ran tap water through an ozonator. And once a month brought in a tanker full of "spring" water, ran it through the same equipment and sold it for a higher price than the tap water. I grew up drinking water from the garden hose and I still do so today. I am not much of a "green" person. Grew up using diapers that came out of the washing machine and not out of a box. I do remember whet it felt like to get poked with the diaper pin. Kids today get Velcro rash. Milk, soda pop, and other drinks came in glass returnable containers. I was in high school when my mother got her first electric clothes dryer. My mother was born in a log cabin deep within the southern Indiana hills in 1920 with no running water nor electricity.

[greg g]

Pigs have a notoriously inefficient digestive system.  If any one cares to they can look up the term refeeding.  This is a process that applies to about 90% of swine grown for the commercial meat industry in this country.  It might start with famous Iowa corn, but it doesn't end there.  MMMMM Pork chops.............

[RobertKB]

 

 

Don't even get me started on the waste of bottled water.  A home RO system will give you FREE clean water without having to process and ship what is really only filtered city water they stuff into bottles and call "mountain fresh" or "spring clear".  Oh, and also produce the plastic for the stupid bottles.  Yes, I know this because I used to be an engineer for a water filtration company.  Bottled water is a farce and sometimes your tap water is actually better!

 

 I agree totally. All I have at home is good old city tap water. I also drink from the hose like Don mentions. I am 66 and so far in excellent health. Bottled water is for trips in your car and I usually get an old bottle and fill it with tap water. People complain about the price of gas but they will spend way more for bottled water than the same amount of gas is worth! Bottled water should be for emergencies only. My nickle's worth as we no longer have cents (pennies) in Canada, let alone two.

[Ulu]

We got a letter from the city stating that all residents need to reduce water use 36% starting this May 1st, or pay fines.

 

It's not here yet, but we're going to be paying a fortune for water soon, if it doesn't rain here.

 

Bottled water might be all we can get if this drought goes on!  

[greg g]

I always wondered who's idea it was to start farming in the dessert.  And how much water does it take to grow America's most uneeded crop (grass on golf courses) also mostly in the dessert out your way.  

[TodFitch]

I always wondered who's idea it was to start farming in the dessert.  And how much water does it take to grow America's most uneeded crop (grass on golf courses) also mostly in the dessert out your way.  

 

I don’t think any of them are farming in a dessert. Maybe a desert though.

 

I don't see too many golf courses when I drive CA-120, CA-198, CA-41, CA-46, CA-58, CA-99 or I-5 through the valley. In fact, I can't recall seeing any. I’m sure there are some near the larger towns and cities like Fresno and Bakersfield but, while they are a waste of water in my opinion, they are not the big consumers of water. Most of the things I have been reading indicate that 80% of the water use in the state is for farming.

 

I don't have much sympathy for the west side farmers who have been dependent on government subsidized water since day one. They basically have junior water rights which means they are the first to be cut off when supplies go low. If you bet your livelihood on everyone else having a surplus of your most needed input then you should be prepared to suffer when supplies go low.

 

But the people on the east side have been farming with relatively local water from the Sierra since the Gold Rush days. At issue for them is that for generations, many generations, they have built up an industry that assumed that the climate in the last 150 to 200 years was the normal climate for the area and this is a drought of historic proportions that is challenging that assumption.

[ggdad1951]

I agree with the water farce. I once worked for a dairy that installed a water bottling line. Ran tap water through an ozonator. And once a month brought in a tanker full of "spring" water, ran it through the same equipment and sold it for a higher price than the tap water. I grew up drinking water from the garden hose and I still do so today. I am not much of a "green" person. Grew up using diapers that came out of the washing machine and not out of a box. I do remember whet it felt like to get poked with the diaper pin. Kids today get Velcro rash. Milk, soda pop, and other drinks came in glass returnable containers. I was in high school when my mother got her first electric clothes dryer. My mother was born in a log cabin deep within the southern Indiana hills in 1920 with no running water nor electricity.

 

actually Don, what you are talking about is about as "green" as you can get.  A lot of the "greenies" are actually more wasteful that those of us who still do some stuff the old fashioned was (tap/hose water).

[greg g]

I see that Starbucks is selling privately labeled bottled water under the "Ethos"  name selling California water across state lines.  And on the subject of Sierra water there was a thing on 60 minutes a couple weeks back where they showed the annual High Sierra snow pack survey.  Last year there was 12 to 15 feet of snow on the ground in late March, this year, zilch bare pine straw, grass starting to get green.......

 

 

 

http://www.grubstreet.com/2015/04/starbucks_ethical_ethos_water.html

[Ulu]

I was up there last week (Tamarack ridge ~ 8000') and there was no snow. We saw one tiny patch in a shadow but the ground and the mountaintops were bare.

 

I checked my bills, and last month we only used 10,000 gals, but in the same period in 2013 we used 28,500, so we are already well under the 36% mandated reduction for our town.

 

That's a 65% reduction and we didn't do much except water a lot back in 2013. (We'd planted some new lawn at the time.)

 

Anyhow, the profligate wasters of past years will find it easy to reduce 36%, while the conservatives are already skimping, and so will find it difficult to reduce further.

[Brent B3B]

Here you go Mark, "green", "organic" or other?

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/04/29/oregon-brewers-use-purified-recycled-wastewater-to-make-beer/

Give it shot I hear it has a little "wang" to it

 

 

Edit: spelling (thanks for correcting me i-phone......)

Edited May 1, 2015 by Brent B3B

[TodFitch]

. . . Anyhow, the profligate wasters of past years will find it easy to reduce 36%, while the conservatives are already skimping, and so will find it difficult to reduce further.

Yep. Our bills are in "CCF" (hundreds of cubic feet) which I can't easily convert to gallons in my head which makes comparing notes with others difficult. But we cut back last year by about 36% last year and they now want everyone to cut back by 30% but it is not clear if those who started killing their yards last year will get some slack this year.

[ggdad1951]

Here you go Mark, "green", "organic" or other?

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/04/29/oregon-brewers-use-purified-recycled-wastewater-to-make-beer/

Give it shot I hear it has a little "wang" to it

 

 

Edit: spelling (thanks for correcting me i-phone......)

 

at some point in history the water you drink was probably pee....

[plymouthcranbrook]

at some point in history the water you drink was probably pee....

From Dinosaurs

[Ulu]

100 CU FT ~ 750 GALLONS

 

Our baseline allowance is, 5000 gals a mo, or about 666 cu ft.

Edited May 4, 2015 by Ulu

[T120]

not to also note that "organic" is a non regulated term for the most part and that most of them still use herbicides and pesticides for the plants and antibiotics for the animals.  It's all smoke and mirrors.  

 

Don't even get me started on the waste of bottled water.  A home RO system will give you FREE clean water without having to process and ship what is really only filtered city water they stuff into bottles and call "mountain fresh" or "spring clear".  Oh, and also produce the plastic for the stupid bottles.  Yes, I know this because I used to be an engineer for a water filtration company.  Bottled water is a farce and sometimes your tap water is actually better!

We are fortunate where I live that the tap water is of very good quality and certainly safe to drink. Reading another thread about water conservation and aware of the shortage of good drinking water in other places, I almost feel guilty about watering our lawn with our good quality tap water...Having said that, I have experienced tap water in other areas that has an unpleasant odour as well as a foul taste. Boiling the water for either coffee or tea doesn't always work satisfactorily and taking a shower is sometimes done in haste.

So,I do drink bottled water when travelling, also beer and occasionally sodas...   

[Dan Hiebert]

I get a kick out of "Certified Organic".  As in, who certifies it?  Kind of a rhetorical question because I really don't care, I'm merely amused by the concept.  If it were USDA, then they would still have minimum standards that allow for all the "contamination" noted throughout this string.  When we were house-hunting here in Maine, we looked at a small farm that was "certified organic", but when we asked, no one could tell us exactly why.  I suppose small outfits can actually pull it off, but I have my doubts about organic commercial operations. 

 

We moved into our new house here yesterday.  It has the best tasting well water I can recall since my days at our grandparents farm in southern Illinois.  My wife is a bottled water person, but she'll be changing that tune.  I can hardly wait to brew some beer with it

[Ulu]

My lawn and plants are actually looking healthier since we started watering with soapy washing machine water. That Ecos laundry detergent must make a good fertilizer too.

 

Like most, the active ingredient is sodium carbonate (dehydrated baking soda) which is already in the local water. All the other little "guaranteed organic" ingredients must be doing the job.

 

Every gardening show tells you to add some dish soap to your watering can, and now I can see why. It evidently makes the water soak in faster, before it can evaporate, which is a good thing.