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Everything posted by Plymouthy Adams
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sadly that ideology spreads from there....now we have three states wanting to ban gasoline mowers, weed eaters and lawn blowers....remember the good ole days when they just wanted to ban cars with gas tanks near the bumper.....I would likely get on board some of this hoopla BUT UNTIL it is a universal mandate that all nations all people...then no.....I am tired of paying through the nose for higher cost and inconvenience when other countries are free to cause the same actions I am forbidden....ok, enough of the soapbox time for me....I am going out to weed-eat now and follow up by blowing the area clear of debris. you know if all you folks would move..that would cripple this garbage but wait, don't move as you tend to drag your problems and agenda along with you.......lol
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well, it is a Mopar forum....the Jalopy journal, over there the Mopar is so misunderstood by the gang as most they ever see of a Mopar are the tail lights opening in the distance....called loser syndrome....I'm going back to cutting my grass now....!
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they should, the front junction box has the input from the master, brake switch port and then two more ports for the left and right brake lines to the wheels...most common set up and one that even my 1969 Morris used....very much an effective means to an end for many makers. As for position, could vary a bit model to model as actual location but should not be far from the master.
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and with the stock suspension with upper and lower a-arms tied with the shock....the term afloat is most accurate Last fall I untied the a-arms and relocated the shock and truly put the ride in another class as the float feeling is no longer there....just smooth solid tracking. but yeah, artist renditions definitely shows the liberties they were extended....today would get a class action suit on their hands...
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this will quickly come together once you and the car are in the same place at the same time...none of this is hard to do and gathering ideas ahead of time allows you to make the proper choices when the time comes. Think you got a handle on this, just need to get the car on site and start. The spring return clip is relatively thin and 1/16 would be a good stock to use. The other end of the spring is retained by a hole in the frame. See dangling spring in this pic....
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whole new meaning to: Good golly Miss Moly
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good follow up and closing of a thread....you did good grasshopper...!
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a page many here may want to bookmark for the future................... Bolt-Pattern-and-Hub-Centric-Guide-1-1.pdf (uswheeladapters.com)
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not sure if newer mopar check for gap at register and hub if gap..not mopar many makers ran the 4.5 bolt pattern, heck even my 62 Volvo has 5 x 4.5 as does my 41 Intn'l K1 pickup Sniper is right the Ford is a bit smaller and will bind...got a set here I want to put on a 62 Dodge that are Ford alloy, working on getting these bored larger register
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These are a few pictures I just took for your benefit as I decided to drive the 54 about a few miles just to say I did....once back home I ran it upon the lift to see about a noise....looks like I am going to need an isolation pad for the steering sector...get a knock crossing the railroad tracks...I know I know, stay on this side of the tracks. I chose to mount my master on a bracket I made special for the master and to also bolt direct to the transmission cross member.
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a walk though a wrecking yard with a wrench or two, tape measure (caliper) and you may find just the items you need...especially if there are some 70-90's cars and light trucks in the mix. I welded my new length rod using DOM bushing stock I happened to have had on hand...that is heavy duty stuff also and being DOM...easy to slide a bolt with the head cut off for easy welding...of course you can clean the bore of common pipe with a drill and do the same job.
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all day long, BUT...MSII or other grafted clip..both invasive...but I would do the clip over the MSII and the frame mods need to accept it. I have done these for under 250.00 for frame. R&P, disc brakes and sway bar incluced with the donor chassis...but you need to be a fabricator and a self starting and proactive and you will need the room to take it down in the manner it needs be. Other have taken more time...as did the first of these but the second one was mimic work. The 48 Plymouth was a bit more also but it got more than just a front clip. The one was just a weekend job for working the frame....Friday evening after work...remove body.....and measure and mark for the cuts...Saturday cut, join and weld, (join means some 32 inches of each frame segment supporting each other and in the case of the P23's on frame slides directly into the other. Sunday clean and paint frame, Monday after work body back on. Would have been nice to have some help....well I did in a way, my son wire brushed the frame after I finished a couple welds Sunday morning. Now of course I made other mods which made this a walk in the park as I also upgrade engine, tranny and in most cases the full electronics including ABS brakes, active air bag and used the donor AC/HTR as a direct bolt in. NO I DO NOT SIT THE BODY ON A DONOR FRAME...much cutting and welding involved.
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I went to my pictures from when I did the upgrade and here is a picture of the bolt, return spring plate and the bolt was not as I thought self locking but indeed it was a pinned castle nut......maybe this will help you a bit...grade 8 would suffice and one could drill the hole for the cotter pin. Allow you to keep moving till you found the exact bolt you want be it aircraft or luck onto a stock setup. 1954 Ply Savoy with Automatic thus the single pedal set up.
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oh heck yeah, after all, it's just sunning itself by laying on it back.....nothing to see or worry about here.....disappointed they did not have a jackhammer on the slugs......
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do not understand the brake system on the firewall, the '54 has a special recess formed in the floor pan for the room/ability to mount the booster unit. You can see this dome in this picture on the '54 Plymouth....pedal/master stayed mounted onto the frame rail NOT STOCK MASTER AND PLUMBING....just show picture of the recess for the booster As an added note, the service manual was already in print and did not include such mid year items of the 54 model like power brakes, power steering and the Powerflite automatic. It was later suggested for these repairs to see the 55 model year service book. The booster which was the late 54 unit was a Kelsey Hayes unit fitted for late 54 and 55 model Plymouth. This booster did not carry forward into the 56> cars.
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Sam I think refers to the heavier boss pin that the pedal pivots on which I assume you have on the car already. I see you got the whole enchilada with Wilwood. My setup for the brake master rod connection was a bolt only, shouldered and the nut was on the brake pedal bell crank with the nut being self locking...snug with no binding. Yes I installed the Rustyhope disc bracket and followed along with the recommend brake flex hoses. As a note, the modern Dodge master was also 1 1/8 bore as factory. All the disc componets are new, 2 lb front and 10 pound rear residuals and I bought them in a set with the proportioning valve included. I also did the shock relocation to 'de-float' the boat so to speak and used the F1 Ford shock brackets as I found them at the swap meet 2.00 the pair. How can you go wrong, plated the frame both sides when installing the bracket. Ride and braking is so much the better. Brakes worked great stock but only after you cycled them a few times as I do not drive the car often and the drum/shoes would grab the first few uses....I would hold my foot on the pedal till I cleared my property by that time they were acting right...but it was annoying and I think brakes are an area for upgrade.
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unfortunately, I did not measure the pin when I did my modern master upgrade last fall. Your rod is similar to what mine looks like, adjustable each end if needed. I used a 2006 Dodge master on mine with a universal dual remote reservoir, It was most economical, removed from a working brake system on a wrecked vehicle, an experiment if being thrifty and keeping it all Mopar....no lid to worry about either and uses the input seals where the original reservoir was in place but stubbed to the reservoir on the firewall.
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sometimes finding county coded tags can be difficult...so far I have held out for the country code of 19 which is for my county.....tags from Atlanta are just too numerous....low population rural counties as said, can be far and few in between... Good find for a pair even if not your county.....they appear the same color as my 48 Georgia tag...silver with black letters
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typically the fastest and easiest method and one that will allow best fit and allow for adjustments is to do in place by cutting the rod and splicing in a piece of metal by welding, therein you have your original adjustment sleeve and jamb nut in place and on the other end the polished ball end of the rod....
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likely the timing chain tensioner....old, leaking and has to be pumped up to quieting down....
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which one has the hemi? gnome-mobile looks to be steam powered what with the open fire...and the one is a tribute to the Z-car looks like the gang had fun.....