Barry Maxwell Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 I am about to install the door seals from Roberts (one seal on the door and one on the cab). I also bought the adhesive Roberts sells, but since it appears to be so difficult and messy to use, I am looking for an alternative adhesive. What have some of you folks used and has it held up? Thanks for any help you can provide. Barry Quote
pflaming Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 If you don't want Roberts' adhesive, send it to me. It holds. If it is a little difficult to handle, just cut the seals into shorter lengths. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 Not whatever I used from NAPA...it's letting loose Quote
Dave72dt Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 3m black. It also comes in the yellow which may be stronger but the black doesn't show as much if you happen to get some where it's not supposed to be. Quote
NiftyFifty Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 I haven't installed mine yet, maybe Friday if possible, but I thought the Roberts stuff was Permatex? I always tape everything for a few days and let it all set up. I know the yellow adhesive works very well, used it many times before. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 Weldwood rubber contact cement..tape the door opening to the width of your weather strip..coat the door..coat the weather strip..when just dry to the touch..these two will bond like nobody's business...then just pull away tape for quick clean up..wha-la..Bob's your uncle 1 Quote
Mrbrylcreem Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 Barry. Hello. Please could you take a picture once you have installed the rubbers. I would just like to know which way they fit. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 here is a video with some verbal cues on how a stock B3 would be gasketed. http://vid1178.photobucket.com/albums/x365/ggdad1951/20130516_155336_zps26093dfd.mp4 Quote
pflaming Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 That is a GOOD video. I did my doors correctly but did not know about the under the hood areas.. Many thanks! Quote
Barry Maxwell Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Posted May 7, 2015 Thank you all for your responses. Very helpful - particularly tips to work with shorter sections of the rubber and the use of tape on either side of the rubber. The adhesive from Roberts is Permatex. It may be that the tube I got is bad. It doesn't flow and is difficult to get out of the tube and it mostly comes out in globs. I think I will go with 3M super weather strip adhesive as mentioned by several of you. The video from Mark (ggdad1951) is both very helpful and somewhat confusing (at least to me). I understand that the cab rubber runs from near the bottom of the door opening and ends just beyond the seam at the A-pillar. No problem. The confusing part deals with the door rubber. It runs from just behind the division bar down the rear of the door and is supposed to end near a "bump" in the door. I can't find the "bump". Further, I don't see how the rubber is supposed to get by the door check and door hinge. Obviously I am missing something in my understanding. If the door rubber was to run from just behind the division bar down the rear of the door, there is a "bump" about opposite to the horizontal seal on the cab. That would mean that both the door and cab seals would be in contact with each other when the door is closed. I assume that is not correct. Hopefully someone can straighten me out on my understanding of all this. I should note in closing that my truck is a '51 B3C. Thanks for any further help any of you can provide. Barry Quote
ggdad1951 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 the bump on the door is on the front of the door right above where the seal on the cab lines up with the flat part on the door. The door seal is on the front of the door by the hinges (compresses between the door and the A pillar) never transitioning to the inside face of the door. Does that help? If not I can snap a better picture. Quote
P15-D24 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 here is a video with some verbal cues on how a stock B3 would be gasketed. http://vid1178.photobucket.com/albums/x365/ggdad1951/20130516_155336_zps26093dfd.mp4 OK to add to the downloads page? Quote
ggdad1951 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 sure! if you need the native file I can send it to you. Quote
Barry Maxwell Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Posted May 7, 2015 the bump on the door is on the front of the door right above where the seal on the cab lines up with the flat part on the door. The door seal is on the front of the door by the hinges (compresses between the door and the A pillar) never transitioning to the inside face of the door. Does that help? If not I can snap a better picture. Mark: Yes, it helps. I found the bump and it matches the bump on the rear of the door, just above the horizontal seal on the cab. Now my fuzzy head is beginning to clear up somewhat. Wonders never cease! If you can get a photo which shows the path of the seal as it goes down to the bump, it would be appreciated. Since I have a medical issue that will be dealt with on Fri., there is no rush. I don't expect that I will be back in the shop until the weekend (hopefully). Thanks for walking me through this. Barry Quote
Don Coatney Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 Way too many stickers on the refrigerator. Quote
Barry Maxwell Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Posted May 8, 2015 Mark: Perfect. Just what I needed. On a related topic, a Forum member emailed me asking which side or sides of the cab rubber are cemented to the door. I responded that I "think" that the two sides that are at right angles to each other are the ones that attach to the door, and the thin angular flange goes out as indicated in the video. Correct, or is it only necessary to cement the side that is against the cab? Sorry to be such a pain. Barry Quote
Barry Maxwell Posted May 9, 2015 Author Report Posted May 9, 2015 Yes the two surfaces get glued on Thanks Mark. That ends my questions on this topic. Barry Quote
NiftyFifty Posted May 9, 2015 Report Posted May 9, 2015 Well I managed to get my doors all done tonight, however I see now I didnt get sent enough of that "lollipop" gasket to do the rear of the fenders like the video, and almost questioning if I have enough of that top fender seal to do the outside to under hood portion. On a related topic, Roberts also sent me these little gaskets in my picture, anyone have any clue what their for? Quote
Merle Coggins Posted May 9, 2015 Report Posted May 9, 2015 Looks like rubber bumpers for the roll up windows and possibly outside door handle gaskets. Merle 1 Quote
NiftyFifty Posted May 9, 2015 Report Posted May 9, 2015 Where would they mount for the windows? Their like an "A" shape, so can't think where they would fit the window at all? As for the others, their way too big for the handles I thought....I was thinking wiper transmissions, but their the wrong shape and too big again for that. Quote
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