Carter B&B replacement

[Sam Buchanan]

11 hours ago, thebelvedereman said:

I've used langdon's Weber on a few of my cars, love them, but I recently came across Daytona carburetors, they have a replacement one barrel that basically bolts right on and uses the same linkage and everything, and they're supposed to be very good quality carburetors, it also has an adjustable main jet I contacted them and priced it out, and it's $299 which isn't great, but it's not that bad either, think I might give them a shot next time I need a carb , https://daytonaparts.com/universal-replacement-carburetor.html

 

Is that the same carb that is sold as an N228 by Mike's Carburetors?

 

 

Edited March 26, 2022 by Sam Buchanan

[Bryan]

4 hours ago, ratbailey said:

I've been doing some half serious research on the Carter YF or YFA. They had a long run, and seem to be pretty cheap and plentiful, and I read that they'll fit on our manifolds. I've got the M6 trans, so I need the anti stall and kick down. Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding this, but the anti stall is just a dashpot, which the YF or YFA has. From what I'm reading, the YF or YFA has an "anti dithering valve," which gets a signal from the car's computer to adjust the mixture. I'm thinking that with some tinkering, maybe that could stand in for the kickdown? 

 

I'm making one last attempt at getting this #$%^ B+B to work on my car in a dependable way, then I'm going to have at this half-baked idea.

The new Chinese knock offs on EBAY have YF types running $65-$75, YFA $75-$95.   I have used a $20 brand new knock off carb on a 4 wheeler. Worked fine, couldn't tell the difference.  I'm going to try to rebuild my old carb, and if that doesn't work I might be joining you on it.  I try to stay original but just like when I broke my exhaust manifold, I'm not paying 5x-10x the price for the "super rare"  "I only have it" part. Whatever runs well and is reliable.

[Art Bailey]

31 minutes ago, Bryan said:

The new Chinese knock offs on EBAY have YF types running $65-$75, YFA $75-$95.   I have used a $20 brand new knock off carb on a 4 wheeler. Worked fine, couldn't tell the difference.  I'm going to try to rebuild my old carb, and if that doesn't work I might be joining you on it.  I try to stay original but just like when I broke my exhaust manifold, I'm not paying 5x-10x the price for the "super rare"  "I only have it" part. Whatever runs well and is reliable.

Brand new is almost the same price as a junkyard part + rebuild kit! Amazing. I just grabbed a $15 YFA off of ebay, we'll see how it goes. 

 

The two things I'm doing on my 90th and final BB rebuild that I didn't do previously are bushing the throttle shaft, which will eliminate the huge vacuum leak, and replacing the main vent tube. I got the vent tube and proper tool from thecarburetorshop.com. 

Edited March 26, 2022 by ratbailey

[Los_Control]

I bought my carb from rockauto a couple years ago ... thinking it was between $150-$200. o'reilly auto parts had pretty the same deal. It is a Autoline out of Winnipeg Canada. I think it is a rebuilt Carter. Could be a repop I am not sure either way.

I am very happy with it.

The price also included a core charge, $75-$100 I do not remember. Included in the $200 price above. So I could have got that money back by sending in my core .

 

I kept my core and cleaned it up.

Really was just dirty from sitting & had a sticky float, the accelerator pump was dry and needed oil.

I soaked it in Berrymans carb cleaner for a couple days, cleaned all the passages. I had a new carb rebuild kit, think I used 1 gasket from it.

Then I soaked everything in PBlaster oil, put it back in the same packaging from Autoline and put it on the shelf for future use, along with the rebuild kit.

 

I looked awhile back and saw rockauto was out of that particular carb & no date on when they may get more.

People like me not sending the cores back in.

[thebelvedereman]

8 hours ago, Sam Buchanan said:

 

Is that the same carb that is sold as an N228 by Mike's Carburetors?

 

 

I honestly have no idea, I've never heard of Mike's carburetors, but I know Daytona are the makers of the carburetor, so if Mike's is selling them, he's just getting them from Daytona and renaming them

[thebelvedereman]

8 hours ago, Sam Buchanan said:

 

Is that the same carb that is sold as an N228 by Mike's Carburetors?

 

 

I just looked up the carburetor on Mike's carburetors, and that's exactly what he's doing, he's getting the carburetor from Daytona at dealer price, and then adding $100 to it, and selling it as his own

[Sam Buchanan]

I suspect the actual manufacturer is…….China.

[thebelvedereman]

4 hours ago, Bryan said:

The new Chinese knock offs on EBAY have YF types running $65-$75, YFA $75-$95.   I have used a $20 brand new knock off carb on a 4 wheeler. Worked fine, couldn't tell the difference.  I'm going to try to rebuild my old carb, and if that doesn't work I might be joining you on it.  I try to stay original but just like when I broke my exhaust manifold, I'm not paying 5x-10x the price for the "super rare"  "I only have it" part. Whatever runs well and is reliable.

Any chance you would have a part number on a Chinese yf or yfa that would fit our cars, also what are you doing about the linkage, just wondering, I've never even heard of yf

[Bryan]

3 hours ago, thebelvedereman said:

Any chance you would have a part number on a Chinese yf or yfa that would fit our cars, also what are you doing about the linkage, just wondering, I've never even heard of yf

Don't know, Ratbailey is going to try it out. Will wait to see how it goes.

[greg g]

Don't know if this fits, but the written description is a hoot.  Love the name.

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WMWTTGP/ref=sr_1_115?c=ts&keywords=Automotive+Replacement+Carburetors&qid=1648483681&s=automotive&sr=1-115&ts_id=15727371

 

Edited March 28, 2022 by greg g

[Bob Riding]

"Our carburetor is a goood choice for you."

[Sniper]

Nice thing about the Holley 1904 is that it uses the same jets as the 4bbl Holleys.  So tuning that part of it is not a big issue.  That does assume this carb actually is built to the same specs as the Holley original and not some metric close enough setup

[kencombs]

I have 3 of those little Holleys, with glass bowls!  But, the bolt spacing for the Ford model is too narrow for our manifolds.

Mine are one Ford, one Edsel and another from a Rambler.

 

I also have a similar , a 1920 that came on a 56 Plymouth 230 that I bought for parts.  It fits our manifolds and came from a mid 70s American motors 258 six.

 

My plan was to put a pair on an offy manifold but that has changed as I'm using a two barrel from a 273.

[Sniper]

I know MoPar used the 1920 on the 225 slant six, my 72 Dart had one.  No idea what the bolt spacing might be though.