wdoland Posted February 13, 2014 Report Posted February 13, 2014 What is the material between the two terminals? Feels like some kind of paper. How do you replace it and with what? Quote
wdoland Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Sorry, still learning how to post pics. Won't let me post another picture, says file too big. Edited February 13, 2014 by wdoland Quote
Lumpy Posted February 13, 2014 Report Posted February 13, 2014 Could be leather, as the old timers were fond of using it in/on just about anything. I would guess that you could use anything that does not conduct electricty. ??? Or, I could be totally and completely wrong! k. Quote
Tom Skinner Posted February 13, 2014 Report Posted February 13, 2014 W, If that is your Wire Terminal off of your front driver's side "Inner Fender" they used some real tough fiber insulator. There is a guy that sells these new. The Two and The Three Type. His name is Dennis at: Iola Wisconsin. 715/445-3791 . He calls them 2 & 3 Post Electrical Junction Blocks - screws to the inner fender, ahead of Radiator on driver's side aluminum stampings authentic reproduction - about $45 for a set of two (This includes S&H). Check with him prior to ordering as my catalog is 4-5 years old and pricing may have changed. Tom Quote
Oldguy48 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Posted February 13, 2014 If you aren't concerned about keeping it original, you can get a barrier type terminal strip at stores like Lowes, Home Depot, Radio Shack, or your local electrical distributor. Ideal Mfg. makes very good quality ones. My local Lowes stocks them in different sizes. Wayne Quote
busycoupe Posted February 13, 2014 Report Posted February 13, 2014 If you just want to replace the insulator I would think that you could use some type of plastic. Whatever you use should be both an insulator and waterproof. I wouldn't use leather. If leather gets soaked it can become a pretty good conductor. Dave Quote
Don Coatney Posted February 13, 2014 Report Posted February 13, 2014 You can also buy new wire terminal blocks with a plastic barrier from McMaster Carr and other hardware/electrical distributors. http://www.mcmaster.com/#terminal-blocks/=qoiep4 Quote
wdoland Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Posted February 13, 2014 Does the terminal block, which is metal, have to make contact with the body?. The two terminals have what looks like rubber insulating them from the block so it might not need to be. I would like to stay as original as possible but a few bucks compared to $45...well I might have to go with McMaster. Quote
wdoland Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Posted February 13, 2014 Oh, and yes Tom, these are for the front turn signals, headlights, and horns. Just where you said. Quote
Tom Skinner Posted February 13, 2014 Report Posted February 13, 2014 W, Yeah, Dennis is proud of his merchandise. I believe his business is call Vintage Woodies. His name is Dennis Bickford. He specializes in re-doing Dynoc Woody Sides Bent Ashe Wood Trim and Convertible Tops. He is a great guy to get to know especially if you own a T&C. Now if your a Woody owner you would probably see $45 as a big Lunch out. But for us working stiffs/fellows $45 is a weeks worth of gas to and from work, or Lunch all week out at work. L.O.L. Don Coatney probably gave you the best lead - McMaster Carr. When I re-did my Wiring and Junction Blocks I didn't replace them or the Insulation Strips (as they were falling off) and they still work fine. I wire brushed them and re-installed them as is. The $45 wasn't coming out of my pocket unless it had to. And it didn't have to. Tom Quote
TodFitch Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 Paper/cardboard is a pretty good insulator if dry. Wax can protect against moisture. And we are only talking about 6v here. So if you are on a budget, cut some cardboard from the inner tube of a roll of toilet paper or paper towels, soak it in candle wax and install. Shouldn't cost you more than the time to scrounge the materials from around the house. Quote
Young Ed Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 I believe the other wire harness suppliers have them too. YnZ or Rhode Island wiring. I don't think they were that expensive either. Quote
Niel Hoback Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 Cutting out the insulation pieces from a quart oil bottle will work very well and you can get it in colors! Oh, and its free. 2 Quote
T120 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 I believe the original insulating material used may have been "fish paper". A substitute as mentioned above will probably do the job. http://www.custom-shielding.com/sedco-information/fishpaper.html 1 Quote
Frank Elder Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 I have the 5 lug...3 and a separate 2 and used cut to fit inner tube patches. Quote
greg g Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) I cut pieces from that indestructible stuff they make blister packs out of. Edited February 14, 2014 by greg g Quote
JBNeal Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 YnZ terminal block 3- terminal $15Vintage Power Wagons terminal block: 2- or 3- terminal $20 the new terminal blocks have the zinc plated mounting bracket, but a solid original bracket can be repainted (or dipped in vinyl). Rebuilding the terminal block can be done with the listed or other household plastics in place of the original paper-based insulating material. New studs can be made with zinc plated nuts & screws from the hardware store. I'm not crazy about the paper-based products on these old buggies cuz I live in a high-heat &humidity environment and that stuff just doesn't last around here. Quote
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