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Really Nice Car ! I'll bet that paint cleans up better than you think it might. Nice color combo too. It's gonna be a fun project - guaranteed !
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Overdrive VS. Differential...Another Discussion
Dartgame replied to ccudahy's topic in P15-D24 Forum
For 833 4 speeds, there were close ratio boxes used in B body applications, perfect spacing - RPM change of 1500 on each gear. I'm not sure if you can adapt that gearing to an overdrive 833. Maybe just the 1-2 gears. If I recall correctly mopar flipped the shifter lever on the 3 -4 gears and made what was 3rd gear (now 4th) into the .7 ratio overdrive, and 3rd gear what was 4th is 1:1. A body/aspen 833's used a steep 1st gear of around 3.09 and b bodies used 2.66 as I recall. -
I'd contact the piston manufacturer and ask them what the paint marks are there for - just in case - but it probably makes no difference.
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Just an FYI - it appears your pistons skirts might have been knurled, knurling was used in the old days to take up clearance between piston and the cylinder. Its an old procedure that was done to cut costs when rebuilding a motor. It allowed one to reuse their old pistons, hone the cylinder, and use new rings to save money. I've seen this once before in a buddies '65 383 we tore down. So I would say for certain your motor has been apart before. You might consider - if there is a next time - to find a partner/buddy/car guy or someone on this site to walk you through a motor tear down. You can learn a heck of a lot about your engine by doing a careful disassembly - measuring using plastigauge - each rod journal and each main bearing as you go would give you the clearance measurements without using calipers or other tools. Plastigauge is cheap (5-10$) and available at any decent autoparts store. It sounds like you've got your path set with a good machine shop. Be sure to inquire about the bearing and other clearances they end up with etc. when you get it back from them. Compare their figures with the specs for your year engine. If not in spec ask them about it. Good luck with your project !
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Might be a plug wire position issue as well. Try moving the plug wires (keeping the firing order) one position on the dist cap and see if that gets you the adjustment needed.
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Very nice Car !!! I'll Add my 2 cents. Pull the distributor and disassemble it down the advance weights, clean and check for play in the dist shaft. If reasonable, proceed to lube and rebuild with new jumper wires, points, and condenser. I've had a brand new condenser go bad in less than 40 minutes of run time. Very irritating because it may still show spark, but not enough to start.
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Look for some 1970s/80s year range mopar police rims. 15 x 7's. 225/70/15 fits perfect on my 52 with those rims. Speedo is 100% accurate.
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George Asche was the person that recommended I use the best gasket seal.
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Pete - all things being equal what sort of power increase would one expect by changing the stock head for one of your aluminum heads ? Just in case. Maybe its not that simple to compare, but lets say you have a 2 carb intake and a split exhaust manifold, with a mild perf cam on a US 230?
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Correct, #3675 no modifications made to anything except the rear main cap. In my case, the rear main cap had some rather large ~ 1/2" diameter holes in it. These were some part of the normal casting process for my engine (218 US production) and if left unplugged would cause a huge oil leak. They might be for an oil drain back from the external rubber seal area, not sure. Your engine may not have these, but if so they are easily identified. What I meant when I said I left them out were the small bolts used for the original external seal. The best gasket people advised to install the seal halves dry where they butt up and meet, and no additional sealant anywhere else. I used permatex #2 because I did this while the engine was in the car and my crank was in the block. I needed something sort of slick to help slide in the upper half of the seal. The new seal fits in where the rope seal was originally as I recall. In addition the groove for the seal was not perfectly smooth, it was sort of rough, but the seal still fit and works great.
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I installed a best seal neoprene lip style used in the later cars in my 52. Works great. Does away with the rope seal and the external rubber seal. You will need to plug the rough casting holes in the main cap. I used JB weld after a careful cleaning job. The threaded holes for the external rubber seal were blind (close ended) in my case, probably yours too, I left them out. Back off the other main caps to get some clearance for the upper half of the rear main seal to slide in, I used a little permatex #2 in the groove for lubricity when sliding in the seal. No leaks. There was no need to machine anything in my case.
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This was a major pain for me. I ended up using some universal type rubber seal. Roughly looks like two D's with a flat rubber piece in between. For my car the original design for that part of the door used one piece of rubber which sealed the fender to the body and also sealed the door to body. NOBODY makes a suitable replacement.
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Wonder what kind of adhesive sealant was holding the thing on that tightly. Any idea ? I've never had an oil pan stick the way you described.
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What is the condition of your fuel tank ? New ? Original ? If original I'd suspect a clogged - in tank filter. Supposedly the original tanks have some sort of porous filter element inside the bottom of the tank. If I recall correctly - maybe sintered metal type. If you have rust or other crap in the gas tank - that filter is probably plugged and won't allow fuel to flow. Try the following before assuming the pump is bad. Remove the rubber line to the supply side of the pump. Rig up a rubber hose long enough to dip into a small gas can - such as that used for lawn mowers. Connect the rubber hose to the inlet side of the pump. Drop the open end of the hose into the gas can and crank the motor over and see if the pump draws fuel and pumps into the carb. If it does, then your tank is bad, and needs to be cleaned or replaced. Fuel tanks are available for 51's. I put one in my 52...
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Need help with horn after 12 volt conversion
Dartgame replied to Richard Cope's topic in P15-D24 Forum
This sounds like a heat issue. Not knowing where your horns are located on a 39, is it possible they are inside the engine bay above the engine or other source of heat ? If so, then perhaps they get too hot after the engine runs a while and then once cooled off, the horns start working again. My 52 has trumpet horns mounted in front of the radiator core support, and work fine on 12 v., loud as he__ but no problem with them otherwise. -
Wow, not the way I would do this. Strip the block bare first, etc. I wonder why he is adhering the gaskets well in advance of installing. I'd think this would lead to leakage. Interesting to watch. He does use some good techniques on making your own gaskets. I was terrified by the manifold removal..
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I'll Give the plunger another try some day. Too darn cold here to fool with it. Block is sitting in the unheated part of the garage...
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I bought a stripped down standard bore 218 block that had been hot tanked and then shelved. Unfortunately the pressure relief valve was not removed and rusted into the block. I tried like He** to get that thing out and gave up. It now sits in the garage.
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There are at least three outfits making disc brake conversions. AAJ, scare bird, and one other I don't recall at the moment. I used AAJ, he has brackets for front and rear discs and also to adapt to a tandem master cylinder. For the rear axle - consider an 8.8 axle from an older ford explorer w disc brakes (lots of ratios available), or an older jeep cherokee (not the grand model) with an 8 1/4 mopar axle - most are 3.55:1. Advantage to using the ford or mopar axle is you retain the 4.5" on 5 wheel lug pattern. For a front sway bar look at jeep cherokees (smaller one) search this site for info on that retrofit. Consider making a bracket to use either a 70's into 90's mopar or GM 12 volt alternator. Later GM's are nice because they have internal regulators which simplify wiring. If your wire harness is good you can use as is. Otherwise look at a wiring kit with a modern style fuse panel. You don't have to retrofit the starter, it will turnover the correct direction with negative ground, and as long as you dont crank for extended periods of time will live using 12 volts. The ammeter will need to be reverse wired, (easy), use a runtz resistor for the fuel gauge, if you have a heater you will need to drop the voltage to it or use a 12 volt blower motor.
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I'm with Plymouthy. The stock cast iron intake is an excellent piece for the street hard to improve upon. As for TQ's they are my favorite carb. Excellent mileage and tons of airflow if needed.
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I dont much about the 25 inch motors. For the 218/230 23 inch motors they use the same piston. Items that change are the crank and rods between the two. So to make a 218 into a 230 you only need change the crank and rods since the bore is the same on both.
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Well, no our's had a black shifter knob. I believe it was a hurst shifter although it did not say it on the shift arm going through the floor. I recall adjusting the shifter linkage and it seemed to me it appeared to be a competition plus.
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1970 hemi 4spd cuda, red with black vinyl top and interior. 1968 chrysler 300 two door buckets and floor shift. 1964 ferrari GTO Mid sixties Jaguar XKE coupe Jersey Harold - you posted about wanting a 4 spd Aspen wagon. My dad bought one, (special ordered it), 77 aspen 318/4spd overdrive. had a light blue interior with black carpet. Nice car until rust started 2 years after new....
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1950 Wayfarer putting in a 218 from Plymouth questions
Dartgame replied to duly's topic in P15-D24 Forum
If I understand your set of parts correctly, as long as you match 218 parts together it should work. The difference between 218 and 230's as I understand it is that the crank flange for the flywheel is offset differently for the two engines. Why I do not know. So if you intend to drop the 218 in place of the 230 and keep the 3spd manual trans you will need a 218 car flywheel or a flywheel of the same diameter and tooth count (218 flywheel truck or car) as the 230 you are replacing. Use the 230 bell housing from the dodge (no change) and bolt the three speed to it. If this involves a trans change to a fluid drive vs manual I cant help you decide what to do.