Spindle nut conversion

[Loren]

My most recent pet peeve with disc brakes has nothing at all to do with their design.

Cars have gotten so reliable and so long lived that dealer mechanics have lost their expertise.

A foreign brand has wear sensors in the brake pads that trigger a dash light when a little more than 1/8" pad is left. Yet the mechanics try to sell you brakes when fully half the pads are left! 4 years ago they handed me an estimate for $650. I asked if that included turning the rotors or replacing them? "Oh we don't turn the rotors we just replace the pads." A quick glance at the estimate indicated that they charge $450 labor to change the pads! I never went back and 10,000 miles later the pads were still only worn 1/2 way. My daughter got the same treatment recently from another dealer only her estimate was $3,500! (front & rear) So I've concluded that the mechanics have so little to do they have to cheat in order to make a living.

 

I went to a Toyota dealer for differential parts for an early FJ Cruiser (they have a particularly weak rear axle). I was told they don't stock parts for them because no mechanic employed there can rebuild them, but the do stock complete assemblies!

The mechanic's trade has really deteriorated to the point I don't believe it will recover.

 

On the modern cars with front or 4 wheel drive, the wheel bearings are double row ball bearings. That's not a bad thing but there's no adjustment like Timkin Tapered Roller bearings. So it's a good idea to check for wear. Usually they make noise when worn but sometimes they don't. If there's any slop in them the brake pads will wear faster. With worn bearings every time you turn, you load the bearing and that puts pressure on the brake discs.

Then there's the dreaded "Snake Tracking" you have to be on the look out for! lol

[James_Douglas]

Loren, I love the educated nut!  I picked up a neat little unit that allows for the anchors on the drum brakes to automatically adjust. A company in LA around 1950.

 

I think a lot of guys who came back from WWII took their GI Bill and started little companies with an idea they came up with in the trenches. Some were good and some were not.  I could not mind a set of educated nuts for my big desoto...

Edited November 16, 2021 by James_Douglas

[YukonJack]

On 11/7/2021 at 7:11 PM, Sniper said:

Ah

 

Didn't mean to upset you, it can be confusing when everyone has their own name for something which I guess was where I was going with that.  However, look at the packaging for the kit I used.  In this case it is called a spindle nut.  Whereas the original nut is called a nut in my parts books as well, even though that specific design is called a slotted nut elsewhere.  Terminology can be as bad as karma. 

 

 

On 11/7/2021 at 7:11 PM, Sniper said:

Ah

 

Didn't mean to upset you, it can be confusing when everyone has their own name for something which I guess was where I was going with that.  However, look at the packaging for the kit I used.  In this case it is called a spindle nut.  Whereas the original nut is called a nut in my parts books as well, even though that specific design is called a slotted nut elsewhere.  Terminology can be as bad as karma. 

 

 

Someone on Ebay selling these for 21.58 each. 

 

[Sniper]

27 minutes ago, YukonJack said:

Someone on Ebay selling these for 21.58 each. 

I'll sell them for half that, lol.  Go to your parts store and have them order the Dorman number I gave.

[SteveR]

You should be in England.

Cresent Wrench is an Adjustable spanner

Wrench = Spanner

Faggets = Something you eat

Gas = Petro

LP = Gas

Pipe Wrench = Stillsons

Channel Locks = Adjustable plyers

Open End Box Wrench = Combination Spanner

Windshield = Windscreen

Hood = Bonnet

Trunk = Boot

 

I am married to a Wonderful English Lady and sometimes I do not understand what she is saying and sometimes (most times) she doesn't understand me. Conversations are interesting at times.

[Loren]

1 hour ago, SteveR said:

You should be in England.

Cresent Wrench is an Adjustable spanner

Wrench = Spanner

Faggets = Something you eat

Gas = Petro

LP = Gas

Pipe Wrench = Stillsons

Channel Locks = Adjustable plyers

Open End Box Wrench = Combination Spanner

Windshield = Windscreen

Hood = Bonnet

Trunk = Boot

 

I am married to a Wonderful English Lady and sometimes I do not understand what she is saying and sometimes (most times) she doesn't understand me. Conversations are interesting at times.

 

I've heard it said that the Americans and the British are two people separated only by a common language.

As I recall that quote came from the film "Patton" from 1969.

[SteveR]

5 minutes ago, Loren said:

I've heard it said that the Americans and the British are two people separated only by a common language.

As I recall that quote came from the film "Patton" from 1969.

The quote came from an interview with George Bernard Shaw.

It is a very true statement I can tell you.

As an engineer I had to learn new terms for things. Allen Wrenches? NO, Allen Keys. They had no understanding of Allen Wrenches.

 

They do have a wonderful expression for a slightly disrespectful person but in a charming or amusing way. They call him a 'Cheeky Fellow' or just Cheeky

[Sniper]

Let us not forget to offer up the gudgeon pin.

[TodFitch]

2 hours ago, SteveR said:

. . . As an engineer I had to learn new terms for things. Allen Wrenches? NO, Allen Keys. They had no understanding of Allen Wrenches. . .

 

Might be a regional thing or from a different era, but my father who was born and raised in the Chicago area called them Allen Keys.

[SteveR]

12 hours ago, Loren said:

12 hours ago, Sniper said:

Let us not forget to offer up the gudgeon pin.

 

Hmm not heard that one yet. I have heard about the Big End. We would say the engine through a rod. They say the Big End is gone.

[Dave72dt]

I used to work on a bunch of Deutz tractors and engines and they used a lot of Allen bolts.  Translation in the parts books lists them as "cheese head screws".  I'm not sure what they called the tools to install or remove.  Cheese wrench? Cheese key?

[SteveR]

6 minutes ago, Dave72dt said:

Translation in the parts books lists them as "cheese head screws"

Cheese Heads are people from Wisconsin. They use to wear cheese head hats at football games.

[Dave72dt]

Sorry, Steve.  I'm from Wisconsin, have never had or worn a cheese head hat or intend to.  Not so much of a sports fanatic that I need team swag.  I've got 1 Badger shirt that came with a tour package trip to Hawaii when Wisconsin played Hawaii when Ron Dane was playing and a Packers jacket someone gave me because it was too big for them.  It got used as a work jacket.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Merle Coggins]

48 minutes ago, SteveR said:

Cheese Heads are people from Wisconsin. They use to wear cheese head hats at football games.

 

Hey... I resemble that remark... ? (although I've never owned, nor worn, a cheese head hat)

 

I've always known Cheese Head Screws as a slotted head machine screw with a thick head. I've also seen Allen wrenches referred to as Hex Keys, and their associated bolts as 'socket head screws/bolts'. 

 

Edited November 17, 2021 by Merle Coggins

[Plymouthy Adams]

vw used a ton of these cheese head screws on their engine cowling.....I think this was my introduction to them by specific name....

[Sniper]

Well, we've drifted, lol.  I've heard them both called allen wrenches and allen keys, as well as hex wrenches, but never hex keys hmm.

 

Being a Bears fan back when I watched football, I have no comment to make about cheese heads.  ?

 

 

[SteveR]

12 hours ago, Dave72dt said:

Sorry, Steve.  I'm from Wisconsin,

Sorry Dave I'm from Minnesota. For some reason there seems to be a rivalry between the 2 states. You have to admit though you have a lot of cows in your state. Hence it being called the 'Dairy State'. One thing I do miss here in England is Colby Cheese

[Conn47D24]

Excellent thread!

[YukonJack]

On 11/16/2021 at 12:52 PM, Sniper said:

I'll sell them for half that, lol.  Go to your parts store and have them order the Dorman number I gave.

I did.