D-24 Dash Trim Question

[Conn47D24]

I'm close to getting the dash installed.  Windshield will be close behind .

 

Help please on this part.

 

Is this trim between the dash & the windshield frame also called " Windlace " ??

 

Any direction for where it can be purchased and how does it install ?

 

Thanks in advance.

[ccudahy]

The black behind the windshield trim appears to be black fender welting material.

 

Installed similar to fender installation. Poke or cut holes and or notches for the screws and tuck in as the screws are tightened.

 

The windlace is the cloth looking stuff around the door openings. 

[sidevalvepete]

What is in your picture appears to be like a fenderwelt. However I question that. My 38 has no such application. Window glass installed first, bedded in its rubber. Then dash. Then garnish molding. I think it might be rubber windshield molding that you can see. Maybe.......

[Conn47D24]

That could work,  I thought it was cloth though.

Certainly seems that the frame will hold it in place.

 

Anyone else replace this item?

[Eneto-55]

I think it is similar to fender welting only in that it has a flange, much the same as windlacing.  I would compare it to upholstery beading or welting.

If it cannot be purchased ready-made, I think it could be made by sewing a narrow strip of a vinyl upholstery material tight against a small diameter cord.  I think this stuff is also called piping, not sure.

 

EDIT (12-29-2020 2:39 PM): I suspect that the purpose of this welting is to prevent squeaking as a result of minute movement between the dash and the windshield molding.  Notice that it appears to be only used in the areas where it would otherwise be metal to metal.  There is noting around the top or sides, where the molding comes against the A pillar upholstery & the headliner.

 

EDIT (12-30-2020 2:57 PM): I unwrapped the bottom corner of my molding (P15, 46) and it has this welting along the bottom and just up around the corners.  It is a pretty small bead, maybe about 1/8".  The cover is made of heavy nagahide type fabric.  The finished width is about 3/8".  

 

Edited December 30, 2020 by Eneto-55

[busycoupe]

My D24 does not seem to have this piece, although my can cannot be considered to be unmolested.  When I replaced the windshield 12 yrs ago I do not remember seeing anything like that. Apparently it is not necessary.

[busycoupe]

In the parts book it shows a weatherstrip and a welt on the inside of the glass.  Perhaps this is what you (and I) need.

Edited December 29, 2020 by busycoupe

[sidevalvepete]

I agree with this post by busy coupe. Just a section of welt along bottom edge slightly curving up the side. May have thin piping like fenderwelt but would only be on one edge. Probably some options available to do-it-yourself. May not be necessary but you have come so far with the quality and your work I'm guessing you will find something that does the job. ?

[LazyK]

electrical panel builders use this

[Sniper]

My 51 has something similar, though it's a sort of hard plastic of some type.  And it's falling apart.  I will probably replace it with something like this from Grainger.

 

https://tinyurl.com/y8qbxr2e

[Conn47D24]

Good exchange here. Thanks.

I've been searching and found several options. 

 

I'll update this post if it works out.

 

[Dan Hiebert]

Although there appears to be a purpose behind that particular installation, it is not original.  Our D24 does/did NOT have that, and it was unmolested when we acquired it. 

[Sniper]

2 minutes ago, Dan Hiebert said:

Although there appears to be a purpose behind that particular installation, it is not original.  Our D24 does/did NOT have that, and it was unmolested when we acquired it. 

 

Then how do you account for it being shown in the parts manual? 

[JBNeal]

Windshield frame welting is used on the early B-series but later eliminated...

[Sniper]

9 hours ago, JBNeal said:

Windshield frame welting is used on the early B-series but later eliminated...

 

We aren't talking about trucks and the parts listing clearly shows "Dodge D24" at the top right of the page.

 

 

 

[JBNeal]

once again, ya ain't picking up what I'm throwing down

[Sniper]

Not real interested in picking out the obtuse here, this is a car forum not a tea leaf reading competition.  Got something to say, be clear, to the point and relevant.

[Dodgeb4ya]

1946-48 chryslers have that same windshield welting.

It's stapled to the moulding.

[JBNeal]

I posted a link to a very similar discussion years ago with regards to Dodge Trucks, manufactured by the Chrysler Corporation, at about the same time as the Dodge D-24, also manufactured by the Chrysler Corporation.  In that discussion, the welting function was pointed out, as well as that its installation was eventually eliminated.  From a manufacturing standpoint, this elimination appears to be a cost cutting move to improve profitability for Chrysler in reduced labor and material costs, as well as increasing production throughput, as the metal trim appears unchanged to deal with any fit and finish issues. The windshield trim pieces, though different for cars and trucks, appear to be of similar construction and materials.  It can be inferred that the trim pieces are supplied to Chrysler by the same vendor to capture savings from bulk purchasing contracts.  It can also be inferred that the welting was eliminated from all Chrysler products to reduce costs and improve profitability in the post-War economy...hope this helps...