Captain Neon Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 When I put my '46 more door away for the winter, I poured some light oil into the carburetor while running as PM to keep the valves from sticking. Storage building is in an industrial park with a few houses bordering it. Some would say that they are just concerned citisens, I call them alarmist busybodies. Someone called 911, and 5 cops, the fire marshall, and 5 fire trucks were there asking about a fire from the now dispersed smoke. As there will be even more smoke when I start up this spring, will probably fire up for spring late at night after most of the busybody population has gone to bed. A guy can't even burn up a couple of old cardboard boxes in a fire pit around here without the cops showing up. They told me that I could only burn "vegetative matter." Last time I checked, cardboard was made from wood, and not petroleum. I have lived lots of places, but never experienced anything like this before. I was a little surprised that I didn't have cops at my door when I barbecued for my son's birthday last spring. Quote
Dave72dt Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 I guess I would have been one of the concerned citizens. Be thankful someone is concerned enough about your well being and your property to call for help. Believe me, you don't want to know how devastating a fire can be when lives of loved ones may be or have been lost Quote
pflaming Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 I agree with Dave, yet it does ruin a good nights sleep when the fire is in your back yard. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 Surprised the EPA didn't contact you! Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 Surprised the EPA didn't contact you! It takes them a few days to research the property involved so to take steps for seizure to ensure their response will net them a return.. Quote
_shel_ny Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 Pile all your valuables in one spot so that you can get them out quickly in the event that the neighbors don't alert the next time when your property is fully engulfed. Choose where you live/play by the rules. I have a friend that is not allowed to keep his slide in truck camper on his property for any extended time(Not sure how long) per HOA rules. There is a trash (unregistered vehicles/junk/general nuisance) ordinance of some sort in the township where I live, but is only enforced on a complaint basis. There will be a "dry season burning ban" in effect for a while soon. Does not include a "campfire". I have a plastic lawn chair, and marshmallow sticks by my "campfire". Quote
Captain Neon Posted March 7, 2016 Author Report Posted March 7, 2016 One of the reasons I refuse to live in an HOA is that, even when they start out with minimal reasonable rules, just a few totalitarians take over the HOA committee (it's a PIA and no one wants to do it), that want everyone to live like them. It wasn't any sort of concern for my safety or my property, it was just someone upset that there was some smoke in their neighbourhood and wanted some excitement with fire trucks. I can assure you that were they trying to sleep, they wouldn't have given a rip what I was doing at my storage space, and have complained to fire department about all the noise were there an actual fire. Quote
minicooper Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 Whenever I take my 52 B3 for a cruise around our little town, I'm surprised when someone doesn't call the fire department. I chalk that up to the quality of smoke coming from my tailpipe and that I'm helping keep our town free from Zika spreading mosquitos. 2 Quote
Dave72dt Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 One of the reasons I refuse to live in an HOA is that, even when they start out with minimal reasonable rules, just a few totalitarians take over the HOA committee (it's a PIA and no one wants to do it), that want everyone to live like them. It wasn't any sort of concern for my safety or my property, it was just someone upset that there was some smoke in their neighbourhood and wanted some excitement with fire trucks. I can assure you that were they trying to sleep, they wouldn't have given a rip what I was doing at my storage space, and have complained to fire department about all the noise were there an actual fire. Would you have called if you saw smoke of unknown origin at a set of buildings or would you just pass on by? You don't know what the caller was thinking and I don't know of any fire department or firefighter that wouldn't prefer to be called out and find it non life and property threatening than to not be called out and find later it was. If you want to avoid the attention this spring that you got last fall and has been bothering you all winter, either call the fire department ahead of time and tell them what's going on and call them again after your smoke clears, or do it after it gets dark when no one can see the smoke. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 I'd use "No Smoke" oil additive from now on to dump down the carb for winter storage 2 Quote
Todd B Posted March 8, 2016 Report Posted March 8, 2016 I get what Dave is saying but I also know of a few old ladies who would call just to make a deal of it. My experience its the bags like that are the ones who breaks the rules the most. Move to Wisconsin, we would love to see the smoke from a classic. My neighbors usually drives over on his John Deere Gator and brings a few beers when I burn brush piles. The local cops will drive by and wave. I sure love where I live. Quote
greg g Posted March 8, 2016 Report Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) the town I used to live in put in a no burn ordinence after having no restrictions any one could remember. There were exceptions for out door fire places and fires used for cooking. One of the independent lil old ladies in town continued to burn her leaves and other house hold and yard waste on a regular basis. Some one complained and the police and codes guy showed up. There was a short conversation, the woman pulled something shiney out of her apron pocket showed it to the constabulary, and the two officials quickly left. Our senior friend continued to tend her fire that day and on many other occasions with no further inturuption. My father was talking with her one day and asked her about what she showed the guys the made them leave so readily. She said that whenever she had her fires she always carried one or two potatoes wrapped in aluminum foil, which she showed the officials, and explained she was waiting for the fire to go to coals so she could roast her potatoes. Case Closed, further complaint calls ignored. Or just tell them you are providing a public service trying to control that pesky new virus vector misquito that been in the news lately. Edited March 8, 2016 by greg g 1 Quote
Captain Neon Posted March 8, 2016 Author Report Posted March 8, 2016 Would you have called if you saw smoke of unknown origin at a set of buildings or would you just pass on by? You don't know what the caller was thinking and I don't know of any fire department or firefighter that wouldn't prefer to be called out and find it non life and property threatening than to not be called out and find later it was. If you want to avoid the attention this spring that you got last fall and has been bothering you all winter, either call the fire department ahead of time and tell them what's going on and call them again after your smoke clears, or do it after it gets dark when no one can see the smoke. I would investigate the situation before calling 911. That's what reasonable intelligent people do. With just some minimal investigation, they would have realized that it was just some redneck putting his old junker away for the winter. One guy was driving by and actually stopped to ask what was going on. The duration was minimal, the response precise, and excessive. They had to have known what I was doing, and wanted me severely punished for the minimal inconvenience of a little smoke in his yard. I was a volunteer EMT for 8 years, and this is a situation where someone was abusing the power of the badge. It was the equivalent of after seeing someone skid off an icy road, and calling 911 with a report of a MVA involving multiple unresponsive parties. All that was needed was a tow truck, but someone thought it would be funny to have three cruisers, two fire trucks, Jaws of Life, and three ambulances block the road for their entertainment. I have an acquaintance from high school that bought an acreage next to a race track cheap, and then complained all the time about the noise from the races. Then there are the people that move from the Big City to a rural area and then bring suit against the local farmers because of the smell from the hog barns. Quote
_shel_ny Posted March 8, 2016 Report Posted March 8, 2016 In addition to burning restrictions here we also have county "solid waste authority" regulations. By the letter of the law with these regulations I am prohibited from disposing of as much as an apple core in my woods, or the adjacent state "forest preserve" land. No disposal on lands public, or private. I have not been turned in, but maybe I need to stencil the nearby rock where I put such things. Mark it as a composting area. Burn barrels would also need a top grate suitable for a pork chop, or burger. Perhaps a hole cut low on the side. A hole big enough to load up one of those foil wrapped taters. Quote
Dan Hiebert Posted March 8, 2016 Report Posted March 8, 2016 Whenever I take my 52 B3 for a cruise around our little town, I'm surprised when someone doesn't call the fire department. That's how to tell where we've been in the ol' D24, too! The less the wind, the longer you can follow our "trail". In rural Maine, a burn permit is required for all open outdoor fires, but not when there is snow on the ground. There are a few exceptions. They're really careful about the woods here. If you're not in the city, there's a 90% chance you're in forest, and even in the city there's a good chance you're in forest. Not a lot of enforcement capability in the rural areas (gotta watch out for them "North Woods Law" guys, tho ) Quote
55 Fargo Posted March 8, 2016 Report Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) Hell what are they gonna do if you do the "Seafoam" treatment, call in the National Guard...............LOL Sounds like they could be some "Gladys Kravitzes", peering through the drapes in the front room. Guess there being cautious about there neighborhood, I say fog em good late at night...............LOL Edited March 8, 2016 by Fargos-Go-Far 1 Quote
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