Tones52 Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 Bring me the visor of barabbas!!! Seriously, I'd love to have one for my '52, especially for sunny So Cal. Quote
Grdpa's 50 Dodge Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 One came standard on Grandpas new 50 Dodge. It is painted same as car and has a chrome edge ,,,,,,,,that is badly pitted and rusty. took some steel wool and rubbed a bit,took rust spots off but still shows badly pitted. was that edge steel? pot metal? and how do you get it looking like you WANT it to look??? Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 One came standard on Grandpas new 50 Dodge. It is painted same as car and has a chrome edge ,,,,,,,,that is badly pitted and rusty. took some steel wool and rubbed a bit,took rust spots off but still shows badly pitted. was that edge steel? pot metal? and how do you get it looking like you WANT it to look??? I would guess removing the unit and refinishing it as needed...if plated..send out for replate..if stainless and just scuffed...polish..if steel/aluminum and painted...clean fill/prime/paint as needed...it is akin to any other parts assembly on the car when it comes to bringing it back to its former glory Quote
TodFitch Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 ". . . dumped in an arroyo . . . " . I have never seen arroyo used in a sentence before, nice vocabulary lesson. There is a coastal town in the Pismo Beech towns called Arroyo Grande. Interesting, 'large ditch', one word to replace two words, and I learned that from someone from NEW YORK, simply amazing. Thanks Dan. I wonder what the word would be in German. Wonder if that ranch was in California. Seems like either arroyo or barranca are the terms used in Southern California. In Southern Arizona it would be a "wash". 1 Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 in some place it would be a wadi Quote
BigDaddyO Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) Or a gultch. Back on topic, I like the look of a visor. I think the Dodge Magnum Wagon should have one. Edited December 7, 2013 by BigDaddyO Quote
martybose Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 My 47 came with a visor installed; I took it off because it blocked the visibility of traffic lights too much for my liking. Marty Quote
austinsailor Posted December 8, 2013 Report Posted December 8, 2013 I think they make the car. I have several, one restored, one in the works. I've been watching for one for my 53 Plymouth, but it has a one piece windshield and takes a different one, it's around $700 for a new one. Still looking. Got the fender skirts, someone mentioned those in another post, still looking for a continental kit. The 3 must haves for a cool old car! Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 8, 2013 Report Posted December 8, 2013 I have but seen one continental kit ever offered for sale for the 53/54 in all these years...twas not badly priced...but you got to really have a love for these kits...I did not...and though I was hot on skirts...I did find the original Cello wire baskets in stainless...they just too sharp to hide with a skirt.. Quote
chopt50wgn Posted December 8, 2013 Report Posted December 8, 2013 Not a big fan of them. Have a buddy with a 49 Ply with one and he has the same problem I have with my chopped top....................you have to stop at redlights farther back so you can see when it changes or get a traffic light diffuser for the dash. Quote
John Reddie Posted December 8, 2013 Report Posted December 8, 2013 I feel that on certain cars they look nice. My '49 Chrysler Windsor had one and I thought it looked nice but I have seen them on other models, especially 1930's cars and didn't care for the look. John R Quote
TodFitch Posted December 8, 2013 Report Posted December 8, 2013 Slightly off topic but. . . Have any of you heard of the outside visors as being seasonal? As a child I recall Dad installing a visor on a car each spring and removing it each fall. Maybe he was the only one to do that. Or maybe it was a regional thing. Or maybe my memory is just wrong. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 8, 2013 Report Posted December 8, 2013 its like the southern exposure house with X inch overhang at windows...removing is not needed operation..the sun's angle in winter and summer was the very working factory common item on application of the visor is the dash mounted viewer that allowed one to get a visual on the stop light in first car position.. non common but yet a fact that these can work loose..at their pinch points...blowing up and off the car...or if lucky, just folding back and damaging your car only and thus you not liable for any other car damage/accident resulting from said failure to control... Quote
Dave72dt Posted December 8, 2013 Report Posted December 8, 2013 Since this is all about personal taste, I'll admit to not liking them. I find they do little to enhance the look of the car. if it doesn't look good without one, it won't look good with one. Quote
Tusler 49 New Yorker Posted December 13, 2013 Report Posted December 13, 2013 I have one on my 49 New Yorker, it keeps the sun off my eyes so i like it but it does vibrate when rolling along at 60+ Quote
Dan Hiebert Posted December 13, 2013 Report Posted December 13, 2013 its like the southern exposure house with X inch overhang at windows...removing is not needed operation..the sun's angle in winter and summer was the very working factory common item on application of the visor is the dash mounted viewer that allowed one to get a visual on the stop light in first car position.. non common but yet a fact that these can work loose..at their pinch points...blowing up and off the car...or if lucky, just folding back and damaging your car only and thus you not liable for any other car damage/accident resulting from said failure to control... I have a "traffic light finder" in the D24. Here in west NY they tend to put the traffic lights right over the stop line, can't even see them from modern cars if your #1 or even 2 sometimes, but leaning forward helps. Not so in the D24 with the Fulton, found myself stopping half a block back. One of the first questions I usually get from folks checking out the car is "what's that?" referring to the finder. Part of my PMCS (any Vets remember that?) is tightening up the Fulton. That's a good point you bring up about the parts loosening, because I ALWAYS find loose fasteners. Quote
pflaming Posted December 13, 2013 Author Report Posted December 13, 2013 ". . . it does vibrate when rolling along at 60+". That being said, then at 30 mph into a 35 mph wind it will vibrate as well. Would the angle of the visor cause this problem? How wide spread is it? Is vibrating worse on the one piece windshield mounts vs the two piece. I like the visor but quite interested in the vibration factor. Quote
Don Coatney Posted December 13, 2013 Report Posted December 13, 2013 Found this on the innliners forum I have a little experience here with this subject.10 years ago I had my '48 AD hauled up to Oregon from Southern California. It was loaded with other vehicles on a transport trailer, you know, the kind of trailer you often see hauling several vehicles stacked on two or three levels. The transport company loaded my truck on the top perch which has an upward tilt. They did not consider the consequences of the angle of my truck in regards to the Fulton I had mounted. It would have been nice if they had loaded the truck on one of the more level berths, or at least loosened and dropped the visor for shipment but they were careless. When my truck arrived in Oregon, it no longer had a visor. In fact, the prevailing wind force pulled the whole thing off of the gutter mounts (raking paint off for 8 inches), and pulled the center windshield molding loose before it finally let go. It whacked the left rear fender on the way down. I hate to think of what other incident it may have caused to cars on Interstate 5 before it came to a final rest. When I addressed the issue with the transport company regarding loss and damage the said, "We are not responsible for an act of God". I know my experience is a worse case scenario but beware of loading the truck at an angle not normal for the visor's design. Just to be safe, lower the visor or remove it for the trip.Good Luck! _________________________ Quote
Don Coatney Posted December 13, 2013 Report Posted December 13, 2013 Follow this link for a thread on the HAMB http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507642 You will see some familuar names in this thread and there is a link to the web page of Norm's Coupe with his fulton information. Quote
pflaming Posted December 13, 2013 Author Report Posted December 13, 2013 The HAMB link has instructions for installation of a Fulton. The instructions are only for cars with split windshields. So I went to google, put in 1954 Plymouth, then images. In all those pictures there were only three with visors and all three were one piece. To my eye, the visor does not look good on the later model cars. The later cars are just a little less boxy and the visor does not quite flow. I would image one should really fab some sort of center brace for higher speeds. So I have my answer and will not put one on my suburban. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 13, 2013 Report Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) so...if just looking at a picture on google was all it took to make up your mind ...why the questions...would have been simple just to make up your mind by your own eye and go from that..are you building this car for yourself or what you deem the public wants to see...I am sorry I do not follow the logic behind all this at all..so I guess it next time the question will be to determine if you want spotlights and fender skirts on the vehicle..one or two radio aerials and if mud flaps are ok but only if it has the curb feelers attached ..just hang some fuzzy dice in it...works with all cars even including 2014 ricers.. Edited December 13, 2013 by Plymouthy Adams Quote
pflaming Posted December 13, 2013 Author Report Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) just looking at a picture on google was all it took to make up your mind . Not so Tim, the lack of a center brace, the possibility of wind shear, that the Fulton Visor was made for split windshield was enough for me. Google confirmed that the visor is very seldom put on the '54 cars. I make my own decisions yet with research to guide me. Would be foolish to do otherwise. Because of research I will not put a T 5, or a Ford 5.0 engine in. Others may which is fine, but I chose otherwise sometimes because to do so would put me out of my range of skill and knowledge. T 5. To put a T 5 in my suburban was not as simple as I thought and not all that cheap so will keep the three speed. Keep things simple, I know my limitations. Edited December 13, 2013 by pflaming Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted December 13, 2013 Report Posted December 13, 2013 last we spoke you were still talking the T5..when did this revelation not to use come about? Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted December 13, 2013 Report Posted December 13, 2013 Paul; Just a thought........you could just wear one of those green visors you see the old time card players use in the movies. Jeff Quote
pflaming Posted December 13, 2013 Author Report Posted December 13, 2013 If memory serves me correct, there was also a green plastic visor that attached to the primary visor and the combination of movement gave pretty good coverage. Quote
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