T 5 trans removal

[Drifter99]

I've scored a trans near by and reasonable I have to take it out by myself . I know this question is kind of off base but for those who ave remove one any helpful hints and i am thinking about three hours . It's a 1987 5 speed. Thanks Robin

[pflaming]

Drifter, I'm still a novice mechanic but one thing I have learned is that there are commonalities in all parts. So, a transmission is a transmission. They all have three things in common: (1) a spline that extends into the clutch and MUST go straight in and come straight out; (2) There are connections, some electrical, some mechanical, which must be removed; (3) the bolt to the clutch housing. So then to remove one is to disconnect all connections, unbolt it from the housing, and pull it out straight. See my thread on "Donor car" and the challenge of a spline that is rusted in. 

 

It's not a complicated task, only a dirty  and hard work one.  Good luck and wear old clothes.

[greg g]

what is it in???  Does it have a removable floor panel?  At a minimum you would have to disconnect the drive shaft if present, the shift lever console and boot if present, the speedometer cable, the clutch linkage or plumbing, perhaps a breather or vent tube,the reverse lighting connection and then the 4 or 6 bolts attaching the trans to the bell housing and any cross members that support the trans and or prevent its removal. You may also need to support the engine so it doesn;t shift, fall or cause a binding problem with the input shaft.  And sometimes the exhaust will get in the way also.

Edited November 14, 2013 by greg g

[Don Coatney]

Remove the 4 bolts from the rear universal joint at the differential and pull the driveshaft out of the transmission tailshaft.

 

With the shifter lever in the nutral position remove the 4 bolts that hold it in place then pull straight up to remove the lever assembly.

 

Remove the 4 bolts holding the transmission to the bell housing and remove the transmission.

 

Then take a 2 1/2 hour break to complete the 3 hour project.

 

[Plymouthy Adams]

Don is assuming you are getting this from a GM product and thus the transmission mount is already broken and does not require removal..

[pflaming]

. . . an extension of Plymouthy's observation. If it is a Mopar, it has been in so long, without any needed repair, that it may well be rusted in, proof that it is a good tyranny. 

[48Dodger]

Best laugh all week.....

 

48D

[NiftyFifty]

FYI the bolts in some GM's are large Alan style, not hex and hope that the crossmember bolts aren't seized so take your WD or PB blaster!! You may have to remove interior parts to get at the shifter plate so be prepared for possible torx heads too. Channel locks for the speedo cable too!! Hope it goes well, but it really is a very simple job

[Don Coatney]

FYI the bolts in some GM's are large Alan style, not hex

Known as Socket Head Cap Screws and they are most likely metric.

 

[pflaming]

Don, how long is that tyranny? 

[Don Coatney]

Don, how long is that tyranny? 

Dang Paul you made me drag it out from under the bench.

 

Overall input shaft to output shaft 32"

 

 

 

From the front flat where it bolts to the bell housing to the end of the tail shaft 24 1/2"

 

[NiftyFifty]

Known as Socket Head Cap Screws and they are most likely metric.

 

That's like Petroleum Distribution Manager for a gas jockey..... Sounds great, but nobody uses that name

[NiftyFifty]

FYI drifter... Make sure its the right T5 or your shifter will be where your seat sits!

[Drifter99]

It's 1987 s10 so I think the shifter is right. Good info on the metric Socket head screws that was the info I was looking for. Don I look forward to my 21/2 break . Great Thanks guys

[Don Coatney]

That's like Petroleum Distribution Manager for a gas jockey..... Sounds great, but nobody uses that name

I googled large Alan style bolt and got no direct hits.

 

I then googled socket head cap screw and was sent directly to that item. The folks who work in the industry use that term daily.

[Jeff Balazs]

I googled large Alan style bolt and got no direct hits.

 

I then googled socket head cap screw and was sent directly to that item. The folks who work in the industry use that term daily.

Try Allen bolts and they come right up.

 

Jeff

[NiftyFifty]

I googled large Alan style bolt and got no direct hits.

 

I then googled socket head cap screw and was sent directly to that item. The folks who work in the industry use that term daily.

Spent 4 years in a shop before I went back to school, and run my own snowmobile business on the side..... Never heard them called that ever...... Maybe just the politically correct industry

[TodFitch]

Spent 4 years in a shop before I went back to school, and run my own snowmobile business on the side..... Never heard them called that ever...... Maybe just the politically correct industry

The darned things that look like "bolts" to me are listed in the 1930s Plymouth parts book as "Hex Head Cap Screws". So I knew what Don C. meant immediately, though I'd probably have called them Allen head bolts.

[Don Coatney]

Spent 4 years in a shop before I went back to school, and run my own snowmobile business on the side..... Never heard them called that ever...... Maybe just the politically correct industry

Might be a difference in industries or possibly materials. Prior to retirement I spent about 40 years working in industrial maintenance management mostly in the food industry dealing with a lot of stainless steel fasteners. Always called them socket head cap screws. But we may have developed our own language

[48Dodger]

This is getting close to a sore subject for me.....I can't seem to call any tool the same name twice. lol. My son badgers me to no end about it. I'm sure there is a name for this disorder...but if there isn't...I'll be sure to to give it several...lol.

 

"Bring me the crusher" ....hammer

"I want the cutter"        .....knife, saw, cut off wheel, razer blade

"where's the hitter?"    .....hammer

"I need the mister"      ......spraygun

"let's use the shank"   ......the red screw driver

"give me the tool"       .......whatever it is I'm pointing at from 30 feet away, lol.

 

48D

[Don Coatney]

What, no square flatter? No bung wrench? No dykes? No brest drill? No Yankee screwdriver? No shingle froe? No adze? No spud wrench? No wovel?

 

You need to fatten up your tool box.

 

[ggdad1951]

you all make me laugh, I went thru our ERP system at work 2 years ago and standardized the part descriptions for all the fasteners to sync up with industry standards....you know how hard it is to look stuff up when it's called something random?  I think it was about 200 parts....FUN!

 

BHCS

FHCS

SHCS

HHCS

 

 

carry on....

Edited November 15, 2013 by ggdad1951

[Jeff Balazs]

I am pretty certain they started off with the name Allen attached......sort of like Phillips head screws.

Call them what you want but the wrench used is an Allen wrench?

 

Jeff

[ggdad1951]

Allen is more of a descriptor for the TOOL not the bolt....technically they are HEX drives, an ALLEN wrench is just like a BOX end wrench...whew are my BOX screws?

[HanksB3B]

Actually I think I'm going a little nuts this morning too!

 

 

Playing "Name that Nut" before dawn is a little bit off Don't cha think guys?

 

Have a nice one,

 

Hank 

Edited November 15, 2013 by HanksB3B