nice car or ruined?

[michael.warshaw]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230467270415&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

do you prefer a chopped custom, new drive train car, or do you like origanal style?

i like the chop i think it looks great, but theres smoething about it which just seems to kill the value of the car?

with a chop it looks meaner, and very into the chop, but wouldnt do it to my own.

[RobertKB]

I have never liked chopped cars as I feel it puts them out of proportion. I compare them to a squashed bug. This example has not had a lot taken out so looks better than some. Typical rod with a Mustang front end and a 350 Chevy. I just like the sense of history with a car that is close to stock/original and I think you lose that when a car is chopped and rodded. To each his own but I know what I like.

[LuckyDevil]

Nice car. I remember this car being a topic of discussion earlier though, I remember the ugly radio hanging below the dash.

I love those bumpers though, and it is a pretty color of green.

[BobT-47P15]

It seems they wanted to make this a nice car.....which mostly they did.

Not real crazy about the stereo hanging under the dash and the air

conditioner outlets.

I just like the original top height............

Edited April 27, 2010 by BobT-47P15

[PatrickG]

Typical rod with a Mustang front end and a 350 Chevy. I just like the sense of history with a car that is close to stock/original and I think you lose that when a car is chopped and rodded.

I tend to agree with you on the m2 frontend and the 350, but I don't think that chopping a car negates any of the history, especially in a case like this where its not very radical. There were plenty of people customizing these cars back in the 50's so its not necessarily a new concept (the engine and suspension mods are)

but at the end of the day it all boils down to your own tastes.

this is a '48 plymouth pictured in 1952, much more radical than the one on ebay,

borrowed from http://public.fotki.com/rikster/

i like the chop i think it looks great, but theres smoething about it which just seems to kill the value of the car?

I'm not so sure about this. Granted the guy has no bids as of yet, but the starting bid is 15K, which is quite a bit more than similar (relatively) unmodified cars seem to be asking. Im not up to date on the final selling price on unmodified cars but I dont see any on ebay with a current bid that is higher than the chopped cars asking price. but value my not necessarily mean resale value

[PatS....]

One look at the underside shows there were no corners cut in the construction. Very well done.

I like the bumpers and the chop is nice and subtle.

Hey, like it or not, it missed the crusher and is here to be enjoyed.

[Fireball]

I don't mind chopping or customizing, but to my eye they should have slanted the backwindow area. Otherwise very nice condition.

[Frank Elder]

That chop is so subtle the average person wouldn't even notice unless he or she knew p15s.

[bobjob55]

its a nice job .. some cars shouldn't be cut -up .. but it depends on what you have to start with ..if its just a rotted out shell ,,, it doesn't matter so much .. BUT ,, if its a close to running car ,, and has most of the stock goodies,, then NO ...

[Young Ed]

Looks good but me personally I don't like those bumpers. They look cheap.

[John Reddie]

Although I can appreciate the work and time it takes to change and update a vintage car to a modern running gear and to customize it, I myself will take an original any day. Many old gems are becoming scarce and I love to see them left or restored to original.

John

[jd52cranbrook]

I like it alot. I would rather see a mopar hemi in it, but I bet the 350 is pretty dependable.

The AC ducts and the not so good radio location would just give me something to do to make it better.

To me that's good price even for the buy it now.

Very well done. And I don't think the chop takes anything away from it being a very proud Plymouth.

[rockable]

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I don't mind chopping or customizing, but to my eye they should have slanted the backwindow area. Otherwise very nice condition.

I agree. Not enough chop and should have slanted the backwindow area forward to get a more streamlined look. I've seen more "sexy" looking chops on these cars.......and I like chops.

[Reg Evans]

The 350/350 ruines it for me. I usually don't like chopped tops but this one is so slight I like it.

I can't believe I just said that.

[hkestes41]

Here are a couple photoshops of my car adding skirts to the first and a subtle chop on the second. Personally I like the chop but don't have the skills to do it myself or the cash to pay someone else to do it so it will stay stock height.

[RobertKB]

Now THIS is a chop.

As I said earlier, squashed bug.

[dynaflash_8]

The chop is very square, and ruins the lines of the body.

A car like that needs a rake chop

[Eneto-55]

Compare this job to the old one PatrickG posted a picture of. As others have said, the Ebay job is squarish in the rear window area. On the old chop job, it appears that the deck was also lowered (perhaps a bit too much for my tastes), and the rear fenders may also have been reshaped in the rear slope area. (It is difficult to tell for sure w/o more pictures.)

The thing about any customization is that it dates the car to a certain post-production period not its own. If a car is stock, it belongs in its own real era. But even my own tastes have changed over the years. Back when I was in HS in the early 70's (when everyone was jacking up the rear), I like the lowered (leadsled) look of the 50's customs, whitewalls, fender skirts, no chrome, frenched headlights, etc. (And I had some of my own variations I've never seen on any custom.) Maybe I liked it partly because it had become a rare look in that era. But now there are so many like that, that I would shy away from it - I guess as far as customs go, I'd just like to have something different, personal. But my 46 will stay stock. I can appreciate the work that goes into a heavily customized car like this, but at the car shows it is the stock survivors that attract my attention.

[Andydodge]

This is how I like them modified........the Dodge has been like this since 1976, the Plymouth is a recent addition as a stocker....but I have fixed that problem..........lol.........andyd

[bobjob55]

If my car was at least 1/2 there and done , I would finish it stock .. but i got mine with the modifications already there . so why not just go crazy ??

[Plymouthy Adams]

I have said it before but not all cars are subject to going back stock..well not in a practical or economical manner anyway. There is always those that will buy only stock and return it that way..there are those who buy cars that are minus drivetrain and uprgrade to modern running gear, then ther are those that buy those cars clapped out in another fashion just to rod these and fulfill their creative ability...with major mods to everything...I.while I don't always like what folks do and the end result it is not my business and I will recognize the time time and effort that went into their build..and if there is ever a question fromt he psoter as to "what do ya think" well..it can get both supportive and ugly at the same time...trim enchancements to the doby I like at time..but the allure of the car is the stock appearnce/body as it left the factory...drivetrains...I have no need for three on the tree even at Christmas time and we talking strings of lights..

[55 Fargo]

I have said it before but not all cars are subject to going back stock..well not in a practical or economical manner anyway. There is always those that will buy only stock and return it that way..there are those who buy cars that are minus drivetrain and uprgrade to modern running gear, then ther are those that buy those cars clapped out in another fashion just to rod these and fulfill their creative ability...with major mods to everything...I.while I don't always like what folks do and the end result it is not my business and I will recognize the time time and effort that went into their build..and if there is ever a question fromt he psoter as to "what do ya think" well..it can get both supportive and ugly at the same time...trim enchancements to the doby I like at time..but the allure of the car is the stock appearnce/body as it left the factory...drivetrains...I have no need for three on the tree even at Christmas time and we talking strings of lights..

1 "Man's meat another Man's poison", as the saying goes, well what you eat can poison you too....LOL

I agree wit ya Tim, personally I like customs and stock, even some radical Modrod, although I am not talented to undertake a lot of those type of builds.

I do not get bent outta a shape over rodding, of old cars, some very complete and in good form vehicle is butchered for the purpose, that is a little over the top. But hey if you own it, you do what you want to it.......

[Rodney Bullock]

I like seeing chopped cars however I don't own one. The car in this thead was chopped by someone that does not know how to really chop a car like this. it is done however it is not done in the traditional way. There are guy's that know how to chop cars from the easy Model A to a 49/50 Merc Folks like Dick dean know how to lean the rear window and put the right rake on it. When I was young I saw alot of merc's in the junk yard because folks were attempting to chop cars. We always talk about modifications to our old Plymouths. I have a street rod and an original car, I like both. Sometimes I just like to ride without all that noise. All of us should do an original car for the hobbies life line then do your resto mod. It is refreashing to see an orignal car every once in a while;)