Fuel filler hose

[Doug&Deb]

Installed a new fuel tank from Auto Metal Classic. The problem I’m having is the short hose between the filler neck and the tank. I have to use all my power to get it on one or the other but I can’t figure out how to connect both. I’m thinking boiling it then using vasoline. Since the hose has wire in it I don’t know if that will help. Any suggestions?

[Sniper]

Disconnect the filler tube from the body, loosen up the tank straps, connect the hose to both ends and shift the tank around so you can get the filler tube bolted back up.  Then tighten up the straps and finally the hose clamps

Edited July 4, 2023 by Sniper

[greg g]

Be careful loosening the straps if they haven't been touched in  long while.  Easy to twist them or bust the fastener.

[desoto1939]

on my 39 desoto the rubber filler hose that connects to the outside metal  tube and then to the tube from the gas tank is just a regular fuel line hose. It does not have any wire inside the rubber hose. Not sure if you have the correct fuel rubber hose. I just checked Bernbaum and the same rubber fuel hose line is used for your car and also my car.

 

Rich Hartung

Edited July 4, 2023 by desoto1939

[Doug&Deb]

Rich that’s where I got my hose. It’s just really hard to push on either one. It’s sort of like installing u-joint boots. 

[desoto1939]

Doug: Squirt some liquid dish soap around the metal and also on the inside ends of the the rubber hose this might make is easier to get the ends attached.  Just a suggestion might work.

 

Rich Hartung

[Bryan G]

My first hose came from Bernbaum and was wire reinforced. A real wrestling match! After a couple hours I got it, but wasn't really happy with the fit. In time it "buckled" and began leaking at that point. I found another hose online (I believe on an old Chevy website.) This one didn't have the wire and was much easier to work with, though it had to be cut down to fit. Even so, at that point I entrusted the install to a mechanic friend. Much easier with a lift and proper tools to hold the tank in place.

[soth122003]

I got mine from the local auto supply, car quest I think, regular fuel filler hose, no wire and had to cut to length. Cut about 3-4 inches longer, a little dish soap and slid it on the tank far enough to line it up with the filler port and then slid it on to it, leaving about 1 1/2 inches on the tank pipe. Clamped it down and it's been good for about 10 years now.

 

Joe Lee

[Eneto-55]

Speaking of the wire "spring" that is embedded in many types of rubber hoses to help them keep their shape, I am reminded that from what I've read, this rubber hose is somehow conductive.  The benefit of that has to do with static electricity, and the danger of creating the grand POOF effect when inserting the gasoline filler into the metal section at the top.  Is this true?  I do not recall if it's in the manual.

[desoto1939]

from what I know the metal filler tube is made of a metal material that is not conductive metal. So this is why they do not use a steel metal tube so that you do not get any sparks when inserting the gas pump nozzle.

 

Rich Hartung

Edited July 5, 2023 by desoto1939

[Plymouthy Adams]

I have repaired a number of filler tubes and most are steel....(two tubes repaired this year alone) galvanized in the day or modern may be aluminized coating and my 48 with the retrofit zero emissions is stainless....the risk at the pump is not metal spark but spark by static discharge.....remember, if you can hear the static discharge...that is approximately a minimum of 6000 volts.

Edited July 5, 2023 by Plymouthy Adams

[Eneto-55]

I thought Doug was talking about the rubber hose that connects the filler tube on the tank (steel), to the filler tube that takes the gasoline tank cap, which comes through the fender.  (At least mine is that way.)  But if the steel tube itself in non-conductive, then what I remember reading is nonsense.  (I bead blasted and cad plated my upper filler tube section - would that make it conductive?)

Edited July 5, 2023 by Eneto-55

[Sam Buchanan]

Unnecessary post deleted.

Edited July 5, 2023 by Sam Buchanan

[Doug&Deb]

Eneto-55 that is the hose I’m referring to. Getting it pushed onto both the tank and the filler tube is the problem. I’m going to try the soapy water method for that and the grommet on the fender. 

[Sniper]

4 hours ago, desoto1939 said:

from what I know the metal filler tube is made of a metal material that is not conductive metal.

 

Not sure what you are saying here, but there is no metal that isn't conductive.

[desoto1939]

Update from a prior discussion on the filler tube and static electrical sparks.

 

Posted March 17, 2022

I just contacted Tanks Inc and they informed me that all of their filler neck are steel. i discussed the above issue with their tech support person and he informed me that all gas pump handles have a plastic (rubber) handle to prevent the issue of creating a spark when filling our cars or trucks.

 

So they fell that this is not an issue.  The real issue is of the Plastic gas container residing in the back of the pickup truck that has the plastic liner. This creates the static charge.

 

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

[Eneto-55]

3 hours ago, desoto1939 said:

Update from a prior discussion on the filler tube and static electrical sparks.

 

Posted March 17, 2022

I just contacted Tanks Inc and they informed me that all of their filler neck are steel. i discussed the above issue with their tech support person and he informed me that all gas pump handles have a plastic (rubber) handle to prevent the issue of creating a spark when filling our cars or trucks.

 

So they fell that this is not an issue.  The real issue is of the Plastic gas container residing in the back of the pickup truck that has the plastic liner. This creates the static charge.

 

Rich Hartung

Desoto1939@aol.com

We flew a lot by single engine aircraft in Brazil (Cessna 206), and the pilots always used steel av-gas cans, and I think they also had a grounding strap they would connect to the airplane while refueling.  (In the village.  At the airport a fuel truck would always swing around close to take off time, and when the airplane was hangered at an area air club, they would taxi over to the fuel pumps & refill there.) 

But I do recall someone saying that the original rubber hose that connected the two steel tubes had some sort of metal strands in them, to ground the two together.  Perhaps just bridge the gap on the outside, with a piece of stranded copper wire, just in case.  And, as I recall, the gas pump handles used to be all metal - no plastic or rubber.

Edited July 6, 2023 by Eneto-55