Brake drum destroyed

[Plymouthy Adams]

Found this link today. Looks spendy if they have them but could be a good link.

http://www.vapinc.com/mopar/Brake%20Drums/main.html

good posting...am sure the folks here appreciate the link..

[Jeff Balazs]

I was under the impression that the MOT stations there were very strict?

[casper50]

I found that the MOT stations are just like the inspections stations over here.  If you know the mechanic little things will slide.

[Brent B3B]

i don't have an interchange manual for cars, are the wayfarer drums specific or can they be interchanged?

[Dodgeb4ya]

The wafarer drums are the 10" stud drums. Dodge only. 1949-52.

According to the parts book could be 3 different ones..depends on serial # of car.

[61farnham]

You've had a lucky escape there mate glad to hear your all OK.

That drum must have had some past abuse for that to happen, hope you can get it sorted. 

 

I was under the impression that the MOT stations there were very strict?

 

Jeff, there is no MOT or any yearly inspection for pre 1960 cars here in the U.K. any more the Government in it's wisdom decided it's not necessary a couple of years ago, absolute madness if you ask me.Most old car owners I know still take their cars to be tested for their own peace of mind but it's not a legal requirement any more. The MOT tester probably wouldn't have spotted this as the wheels aren't removed for testing just a visual check underneath for leaks/corrosion and the brakes tested on the rollers for efficiency. 

[Jeff Balazs]

Thanks for the info. Was not aware these requirements have been relaxed or changed. Some day I would like to test the brakes on my B-3-C on one of those rolling roads. I went the extra mile and installed a 4 wheel disc brake system with all new components. It is pretty impressive but It would be great to check the balance of the system on that sort of device.

 

I suppose there is potentially something good about what happened with this brake drum? Might make a few folks take a much closer look at their own vehicles. Putting a car or truck this old on the road is very serious business. My feeling is that an owner should have intimate working knowledge of the condition of his vehicle before taking it out on the road. Anything less is unfair to the people you share the road with.

 

Jeff

[Lloyd]

I've got 4 drums off my 39 Plymouth. Without hubs, I found 4 nos on ebay w/o hubs so I swapped the ones on mine over.

They are 10" as I recall but dont know if they would fit your dodge. I might part with a couple for the cost of shipping.

 

BTW, the hubs on mine were inside the drum, looking at the photo with the hub on the outside - do the studs go thru the drum? If not wouldnt the drum free-wheel?

[belvedere666]

I've got 4 drums off my 39 Plymouth. Without hubs, I found 4 nos on ebay w/o hubs so I swapped the ones on mine over.

They are 10" as I recall but dont know if they would fit your dodge. I might part with a couple for the cost of shipping.

 

BTW, the hubs on mine were inside the drum, looking at the photo with the hub on the outside - do the studs go thru the drum? If not wouldnt the drum free-wheel?

could you post pics of the drums? if he doesn't want them, i do. if it'll fit my p20 i'll take, at least, the right hand rear drum off your hands.

this is what mine looks like.

Edited May 28, 2015 by belvedere666

[BobT-47P15]

You might do what many other people do - watch eBay for the parts.      You might contact our UK  member Robin Weathersbee at "Rockthejoint.com" as he has a 47 Plymouth

convertible.........he may know a source of parts.   Just email him, or pm him thru this forum.  

[Lloyd]

could you post pics of the drums? if he doesn't want them, i do. if it'll fit my p20 i'll take, at least, the right hand rear drum off your hands.

this is what mine looks like.

 

Here ya go.

[belvedere666]

 

could you post pics of the drums? if he doesn't want them, i do. if it'll fit my p20 i'll take, at least, the right hand rear drum off your hands.

this is what mine looks like.

 

Here ya go.

 

that's them but it looks like the hubs were removed by grinding off the rivets. do your hubs have the studs sticking out of them or do they still use the lug bolts? the problem with mine is the stripped threads in the holes. i don't thik these will help me

Edited May 28, 2015 by belvedere666

[Lloyd]

The new drums I received did not have hubs so I removed them from these drums (by grinding off the rivets) and transferred them over to the new drums.The original hubs used lug bolts. On the new set up I ran bolts from inside the drum with a little lock-tite and now use lug nuts on the rims. In place of the rivets I threaded those holes in the hubs and used button head style bolts instead.

[belvedere666]

The new drums I received did not have hubs so I removed them from these drums (by grinding off the rivets) and transferred them over to the new drums.The original hubs used lug bolts. On the new set up I ran bolts from inside the drum with a little lock-tite and now use lug nuts on the rims. In place of the rivets I threaded those holes in the hubs and used button head style bolts instead.

Someone correct me if i'm wrong, because i just might be. I'm an old mopar rookie and i'm learning new things here every day. literally every day. i'm always here searching and probably asking questions that have bee asked to death.

 

Ok, so i found this stud conversion for "pre 65 mopars"... the conversion lists a part number that will fit in place of the old drum, but it never states how far back beyong 65 it'll fit.

http://hotrodsandhemis.com/PolaraRearBrakes/TaperedAxleBrakes.html

 

and now that this broken drum has has had the hub and studs removed, would this part listed at NAPA for $31.50, fit the car?

http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Result.aspx?Ntt%3dND%2b4401129%26Ntk%3dKeyword%26Nty%3d1%26Dn%3d0%26D%3dND%2b4401129%26Dk%3d1%26Dp%3d3%26N%3d0

[Plymouthy Adams]

while the studs may may be of use here....the drum is as stated for the erly 8 3/4 which at that time used the wider 2.5 shoes..the drum is too wide for your current 2 inch shoes..the 8 3/4 appeared on the scene  in 1957 and the use of tapered axles till 1964...the drum you see listed is 65 and first year of flanged axle...that is why this retrofit will work on the early 8 3/4 axles

[ggdad1951]

thread being locked by original poster's request.

 

 

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[Ulu]

OK, I get how a flanged axle drum can be transported to a tapered axle car (if it has the correct brake width for that drum) but that "drum-behind-the-hub" business still freaks me out.

[SimonTiki]

Hi, I'm still struggling to get some replacement hubs/drums. I guess an axle swap may be the way to go, unless anyone else has any great ideas?

[belvedere666]

Hi, I'm still struggling to get some replacement hubs/drums. I guess an axle swap may be the way to go, unless anyone else has any great ideas?

met a guy in Fresno, CA. i know you're overseas, but he said he has a lot of these old cars on his lot and has a lot of parts ready for pulling. i'd call and ask about shipping.

i got a flyer for his place but there is no email address.

Steve

559-352-1407

[SimonTiki]

Cheers Bel666, I'll give him a try.

Failing that I'm really struggling to get these parts.  Does anyone know of an easy axle swap?

Or failing that does anyone want to buy a 1950 Wayfarer?

[Don Coatney]

[SimonTiki]

Cheers Don