The Phoenix is awakening / B3B Rises from the Ashes

[Don Coatney]

Horn wiring job looks great as well as the wiring on the doghouse dodge emblem.

[55 Fargo]

Now would be the time to sand this baby down, and paint. Even if Paul just rolled on Navy (dark) Blue rustoleum type paint, black boards and bumpers, would look cleaned right up, and the metal with more protection to last another 60 years.

[Plymouthy Adams]

Hank, I will now come clean. Here in the valley, drivers' do not have money, insuracne, driver's license, or maybe even citiizenship. If they see a nice truck like yours, they call their insurance lawyer and then drive into you. If they see me, they figure 1 no money, 2. no insurance, 3. AVOID!!!!!!

 

PP...did you ever consider the fact that they may see you coming..say to themselves...oops my Tetnus shot is not up to date....!!

 

AVOID the Rustoid

[Jeff Balazs]

Hey Paul;

You do know that you are single-handedly driving some of these fellows crazy with the finish on the Phoenix?   

 

You know what? I kinda like what you are trying to do. The idea of having this fire survivor actually look like this is definitely growing on me. There are plenty of restored examples out there but yours will be completely unique. And it has quite a story to go with it. Keep at it and I feel sure you will get it to the point that you want it. Nothing you have done is irreversible...or will prevent restoration in the future.The main thing is to have fun with it. And of course be safe.

 

Jeff

[Plymouthy Adams]

_{actually it is driving him crazy it seems..one day I get a call on how to prep and paint...next I see the lazy man's way out....guess one day we all will find out what is really on his mind beside talking about it...}

[Jeff Balazs]

_{actually it is driving him crazy it seems..one day I get a call on how to prep and paint...next I see the lazy man's way out....guess one day we all will find out what is really on his mind beside talking about it...}

Tim;

Wasn't really referring to you. I am pretty sure it is messing with Hank though. He has been awfully quiet lately. And I know for certain that the word patina (however over used or misused it is) is not really in his comfort range.

Jeff

[Plymouthy Adams]

I have been ribbing PP about this from day one..it was I who named him Pauly Patina...it is suiting...PP is free to do as he wishes but must suffer through the "pointing finger"

[Dave72dt]

I'll admit I'd have a hard time not painting it. It's redeeming factor is it's an honest burn look, not fake. I'd prefer to see him use a catalized clear instead of rattle can. It'll offer much more protection than the cans will.

[pflaming]

Working now to get the Phoenix back on the road. I've driven it as is and all works so now to finish the wiring.  I got the bulk of the work done today.  I ran all the wires from the eight bolt terminal block back into the cab and then from the same block on to their respective locations. I added an electric fuel pump which runs only when the IG is on and I put in a 'short cut "IG' so I can start and stop the engine from the front. Thus the toggle switch.

 

Tomorrow will focus on the alternator, then begin the trouble shooting. It starts and runs as before the fire so that's a relief.

 

(to be continued)

 

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[Desotodav]

I wondered how you were going with the Phoenix Paul. It sure will be good to see it back on the road again!

[pflaming]

Working on the Phoenix. Sometimes here, sometimes there. Will be under the hood and the dash tomorrow. This surface is the result of some wet sanding, then phosphoric acid, then wash thoroughly, then lightly wet sand again and then four coats of rattle can clear gloss. The purist may not be too excited about this but this is my truck.  Gotta do something every day. 

 

Edited December 8, 2014 by pflaming

[Plymouthy Adams]

you better get your tag renewed...

[pflaming]

I'm very close to completing my wiring. I brought every thing from the dash to an eight stud terminal then branched out from there.  Still a lot of work but for me easier than trying to make a harness on a shop bench.  I have added a toggle switch for a 'hot wire' start up and a toggle switch turn signal harness.

 

I'm trying to keep the firewall clean and hide wires as much as I can. Cosmetic wrapping after testing.  I've driven i and all is ok, Glass is next, then clean the exterior and work on the interior. Later I will pull the doghouse, clean the front frame and suspension, and repaint the engine.

 

(To be continued)

 

[Jeff Balazs]

Paul;

I don't see any heat shrink tubing on all those connections........ tsk...tsk....tsk.

On second thought your local Fire Dept. probably doesn't want you using any potentially dangerous heat sources.

 

Jeff

[Don Coatney]

Jeff Balazs, on 15 Dec 2014 - 6:54 PM, said:Jeff Balazs, on 15 Dec 2014 - 6:54 PM, said:

Paul;

I don't see any heat shrink tubing on all those connections........ tsk...tsk....tsk.

On second thought your local Fire Dept. probably doesn't want you using any potentially dangerous heat sources.

 

Jeff

The connections all appear to be crimped, not soldered with shrink tubing applied. Also bundle wrap cleans things up nicely.

 

 

 

[Jeff Balazs]

Don;

I bet the Fire Dept would want a full team to be present when he starts wielding a soldering iron.

[Don Coatney]

Depends on the heat source.

 

[pflaming]

I am aware of the crimped wires.  I built this harness in the truck so soldering was not an easy option.  Once it's all complete and tested, then I may take it all out, solder, shrink tube, and then I like that bundle wrap. 

 

There is an audience against soldering, the claim is that the connection can be brittle and break. I am not advocating nor down playing either method. This was discussed on a different thread some time back.

 

Wiring is very time consuming for me. One wire and "fire truck" run!!!! Well maybe not.  Whatever I appreciate discerning eyes and optional methodologies.

 

PF

 

edit: I really intended to solder but when I soldered the first time, a couple of my forum "friends" informed me that the smoke that was burning my eyes was 'factory installed' to indicate if the wire was heated too much. 

Edited December 16, 2014 by pflaming

[Jeff Balazs]

Depends on the heat source.

 

Ah-huh..... but in this case it is the who that the Fire Dept is frightened by.

Considering everything I think crimping is just fine Paul. Maybe you can get the firemen doing the daily drive-by to do the heat shrink for you?

 

Jeff

[Plymouthy Adams]

people people people...how many times I got to say this..that cat he kept locked up in the garage set that fire....PP would not let him stay in the house and watch TV...and as no body was found..the cat knowing fully well his culpability in the crime, has split for areas unknown...

[pflaming]

Since 'crimping' is acceptable, even though not preferred by some, I discovered that I could slip the rubber sleeves over the connectors then hit them with the hand torch and shrink them all at one time. Would save a lot of work! 

 

[Don Coatney]

pflaming, on 16 Dec 2014 - 11:58 AM, said:

 hit them with the hand torch and shrink them

 

 

That is not an option I would elect to take and I should add I have never had a garage burn down.  But suit yourself.

 

[Plymouthy Adams]

while shrinking the tubing with an open flame will work..it is also a bit rough on the wire in some cases...a good heat shrink electric hot air gun is the better/preferred method and with proper attachments can actually make solder joint if you have the ferrule with lead/flux in place...have made so many of these connections it is not funny...while the posted tool below is not the model Ihave..it is similar as it has the special clip on attachments for whatever suits the job..I highly recommend one of these if you do a lot of wiring on these old cars..

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ELECTRIC-HEAT-GUN-FOR-HEAT-SHRINK-CONNECTORS-PAINT-REMOVAL-2-SPEEDS-/171335956369?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27e46b3791

[RobertKB]

I'm with Don on this. I solder virtually every connection and then apply the shrink tubing which I put on first and push up the wire out of the way so it does not shrink when the soldering is being done. Then I push the tubing into place an use an electric heat gun to shrink it. Takes longer but I believe it is a better connection than crimping and looks better. I would never use an open flame anywhere near wiring.

 

Also, just curious, Paul. Why would you paint the engine when you won't paint the body? Your engine as it now is has lots of patina.

Edited December 16, 2014 by RobertKB

[Young Ed]

That is not an option I would elect to take and I should add I have never had a garage burn down.  But suit yourself.

 

 But Don I've done it that way and never had a garage burn down either