Jeff Balazs Posted January 25, 2013 Report Posted January 25, 2013 I am so excited I can hardly stand it. I managed to work out a deal with a local paint and body shop to get my truck painted.......for a price I can actually live with. They are even going to do a bit of body work that is probably beyond my skill set. And they are going to start by the end of next week! YEAH! :lol: I am going to have the truck painted a 50's type beige and I have already done the running boards, grill , trim and bumpers in satin black. Since I am going to use this truck as my daily driver I have elected to leave some of the existing battle scars and dings in it. I am hoping that this comes out looking like an old work truck........ as that is what it is afterall. I do have one question for you guy's? I am definitely not after a show truck. I need to make a choice between PPG Essential Line single stage and PPG Enviro base with 4010 clearcoat. My thought is to go with the single stage (and save about $300) as I would not mind if it faded some over time. Any input on this would be appreciated. Jeff Quote
Merle Coggins Posted January 25, 2013 Report Posted January 25, 2013 I believe the base/clear paint would have more shine, and a deaper finish than the single stage paint. If it were mine I'd use the single stage, because that's what I did. I used Dupont Imron, a single stage urethane paint. It doesn't have a fancy "show vehicle" shine, but I just wanted a nice lookin' old truck, and that's what I got. Merle 1 Quote
John-T-53 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Posted January 25, 2013 Jeff, Which shop is doing it for ya? Quote
HanksB3B Posted January 25, 2013 Report Posted January 25, 2013 Definitely a single stage guy.. Hank P.S. Forget the old dinged look,,,that'll come later. 1 Quote
Frank Elder Posted January 25, 2013 Report Posted January 25, 2013 Single stage "warm glow" look, like the factory............BC/CC "plastic easter egg fiberglass" look. Mi dos centavos......... Quote
52b3b Joe Posted January 25, 2013 Report Posted January 25, 2013 I'm using a PPG single stage acrylic urethane on mine. It has a nice gloss and deep color. I went single stage to save some money as well. Its closer to factory anyway! Quote
B1B Keven Posted January 25, 2013 Report Posted January 25, 2013 Congrats!. I had to stop painting. Too cold!!! Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted January 26, 2013 Author Report Posted January 26, 2013 Definitely a single stage guy.. Hank P.S. Forget the old dinged look,,,that'll come later. Definitely a single stage guy.. Hank P.S. Forget the old dinged look,,,that'll come later. Yes but if it is going to be there later........then it may as well be there in the first place. It is in fact already there....... The shop that is going to paint it is Simon's Autobody. Real good guy who unlike others I talked with....... actually listened to what I want it to look like. He is even going to pick all the parts up at my shop and deliver them back when it is done.Admittedly my view of what my truck should look like is probably not that of the average restorationist. By having a pro paint it in a real booth it should be prepped properly and adhere well. For me the dings and bruises it has are a very real part of what an old work truck should look like. Best part is that underneath it all will be an essentially "new" 60 year old truck with just a few hardly noticable mods. I can't wait!!!!!! Thanks for all your input.....single stage was my first choice too. Jeff Quote
TennesseeVol51 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Posted January 26, 2013 Can't wait to see it Jeff!! Bojo Quote
55dodgec3 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Posted January 26, 2013 The new single stage paints have come a long way. I used to use base/clearcoat, but I like the single stage because its less work. Applied right, it should look just as good as a base/clear paint Quote
48Dodger Posted January 26, 2013 Report Posted January 26, 2013 Soild color/ close to stock.....single stage Metalic/pearl/kustom look/air-brush grafics.......2 stage This is a current customer project I'm working on. 1973 Dodge Dart. These are the prices on the same paint color in E5 (red). Its basically a no frills factory red.All refer to one gallon:PPG dbc .................834.90 (2 stage)*Omni Au (ppg)........186.58 (2 stage)*PPG dcc................... 504.65 (single stage)Omni AE (ppg)........ 150.11 (single stage) * doesn't include cost of clear for 2 stage paints 48D Quote
HanksB3B Posted January 26, 2013 Report Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) I guess now would be an appropriate time to once again mention TCPglobal http://www.tcpglobal.com/?gclid=CJaZtuL7hrUCFexxQgodlngA4g it's really just an LA hoot n' a holler from you Jeff. Hank heck, an Orange County Wife could make it there and back in an hour and a half.. Edited January 26, 2013 by HanksB3B Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Posted January 27, 2013 Hank; Based on the price breakdown he gave me he is definitely not gouging me. I am fairly certain I will be happy with what he does for the cost. Is it going to look like a restoration? Probably not. I have always looked at this truck as sort of a recycling project......more or less stock with a few carefully thought out upgrades and hopefully a well used look. You know like an old pair of comfy blue jeans. I will be really happy if it comes out that way........and if it doesn't .....then I will just have to keep working on it til it does. Jeff Quote
HanksB3B Posted January 27, 2013 Report Posted January 27, 2013 You'll have to drive it down to the beach this summer as your truck is going to be 405 fwy. worthy. I know it's going to turn out nice. Hank Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Posted January 27, 2013 Hi Hank; Sounds good. It should have enough braking.......hopefully it will have enough get up and go? I will have to do some short road trips in my area first to make sure it all roadworthy and dialed in. The toll roads down here are pretty quiet in the evenings and should be a safe place to get it up to freeway speeds for a few miles. I doubt that our friends in the more rural parts of the country can appreciate how crazy the 405 can be at times. I have been on it when I am certain the amount of vehicles on it at the same time exceeds some State's entire population. I won't be getting on it until I have a high degree of confidence in what I have put together. Jeff Quote
TennesseeVol51 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 I doubt that our friends in the more rural parts of the country can appreciate how crazy the 405 can be at times. I have been on it when I am certain the amount of vehicles on it at the same time exceeds some State's entire population. I won't be getting on it until I have a high degree of confidence in what I have put together. Jeff Jeff , Sometimes at night when I work over till 3am in the morning I will drive the entire 40 miles home to my house and never meet or see a car,I think I'll pass on the 405.But I am waiting on pics of your truck. Quote
Scruffy49 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 I've driven the 405 and the 5 in L.A. and Seattle. I'll take any of those over the 40, 240 or 55 mess in the Memphis area any day. Neither of my Dodges wil see trips to the city without transplanting in big blocks, automatics, 4 wheel disc brakes and 4 wheel independent suspension. The drivers here make Angelinos look sane, and the roads are rougher than tank training grounds. A straight axle 4 wheel drum slow poke doesn't stand a chance around here. My brother in law had 20 or 30 vehicles destroyed in the traffic here over a 40 year time span. Mostly mini trucks, so, no great loss... Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Posted January 29, 2013 Well I picked a color yesterday. How about this? it is actually a late model Chrsyler color named Cream. I think it will look real good with the satin black grill, bumpers and trim. We will take a load of parts over this morning and they will pick up the cab later this week. I'm soooooooo stoked........can't wait to see it all back together. I will start taking pictures when I have it all back from the painter. Scruffy No doubt that every area has it's road issues these day's. And certainly our road surface quality is in general very good considering the load that it has to service. But I am pretty sure Hank would agree that the 405 is not the best choice for an early shakedown trip. Once I get it roadworthy I will be looking hard at fine tuning the suspension. I have elected to stay pretty much original but there are still a few things that can be tweaked to get the best ride possible. Jeff Quote
55 Fargo Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 Definitely a single stage guy.. Hank P.S. Forget the old dinged look,,,that'll come later. Great pic Hank, I love the color, and I am not usually a green guy, nice truck... Quote
55 Fargo Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 Single stage "warm glow" look, like the factory............BC/CC "plastic easter egg fiberglass" look. Mi dos centavos......... Muchos gracia Senor, my 2 cents also comprende Quote
55 Fargo Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 I actually painted my 47 Chrysler 4 years ago with real basic synthetic enamel. I did add a gloss hardener, and it still looks super shiny. 2 years ago I had to paint the sun visor and rear bumper pan, the gloss and paint match were dead on. Now this paint is not for everyone, it's cheap industrial enamel at $40 per gallon, but it has served me well to date. I can appreciate the better quality PPG BASF, Dupont lines, but did not want to spend that amount of money at the time. I know a Guy on this forum that painted a 50 Dodge truck with Van Sickle paint, and it looked fantastic, He lives oin the south and the paint gets plenty of sun UVs, and maybe will fade faster, but the price was right. So Jeff, your call, sure it will look great, whichever way you proceed..... Quote
HanksB3B Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 Well thanks C38Spitfire6, Nice 48 you've got there (big trunk?). Actually I can't wait to see Jeff's Truck painted. He doesn't live too far from me and it's one of those projects I've been watching all along. Hank Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted February 15, 2013 Author Report Posted February 15, 2013 Saw the first batch of parts today. The front end is done......the bed and rear fenders are next. These guy's did a really nice job......just what I asked for. I want some of the old scars and they have left some of the small ones but fixed the bad stuff. I am really happy with the color selection I made. It is a late model Chrysler single stage cream. I know it is not a stock color but it sure looks like it could have been. Very 50's. Should be pretty cool in the summers here. Will look real sharp with satin black trim. I will post some photo's this weekend. Man am I getting excited. Jeff 1 Quote
John-T-53 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Posted February 15, 2013 ....snip.....No doubt that every area has it's road issues these day's. And certainly our road surface quality is in general very good considering the load that it has to service. But I am pretty sure Hank would agree that the 405 is not the best choice for an early shakedown trip. Once I get it roadworthy I will be looking hard at fine tuning the suspension. I have elected to stay pretty much original but there are still a few things that can be tweaked to get the best ride possible. Jeff Unfortunately I had little choice but hit the 405 head first after 300 miles on a fresh rebuild a few years ago. Especially not fun with the old three speed, and the bed full of tools and lumber. The worst part was merging onto the 101 heading north, because it puts you in the fast lane when you're doing 50 and have no turn signals. Man that was scary, but in the tough times you gotta do what you gotta do...it shook me and the truck down alright. Anyways, Jeff, can't wait to see pics!! Quote
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