claybill Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 currently on e-bay there is a '49 ply woody. a real desirable car.! priced at 40,000$ maybe some wood problems but car looks ok.....my question.. there has been no bidding on this car.! am i missing something.? i have seen other woodies for over $100k. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 hey..40,000.00 jump on it..unless you are missing something like 40,000.00 + Quote
claybill Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Posted May 16, 2012 amusing for sure. my wonderment is the difference between one woody and another..40k---140k b Quote
Young Ed Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) All about popularity. If the Ford wagon is more popular and therefore more in demand it brings a higher price. Just think of it as 2 identical houses one in a nice area and one in a poor one. Edit don't think with my house example I'm stating a ford and a plymouth are equal! We all know better! Edited May 16, 2012 by Young Ed Quote
dezeldoc Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 I remember when that was for sale a few years back. As i recall it did not sell for much then, thinking somewhere around 22-25K. But the best part is he also has it as best offer so you can get it cheaper! Look at the repair job on the floors! Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 this is not quite the same as Ed's comparison but will give you an idea...the Plymouth woody has very little available in retrofit wood, floor panels and such until just recent years with the floor metal becoming available and we all know that some of these panels are not worth the effort to try and put in...so take a car where you can get everything premade, basically a bolt in..the level of repair is greater even if done by a rank amatuer..it's just simple availibility for the most part..ah but compare that other car against one of the Town and Country sedans..then do the math..personally I would not care for a wooden body car..they have no appeal to me whatsoever..my mind automatically goes into upkeep mode and negates any idea of ownership on the spot.. Quote
desoto1939 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 I looked at some of the pictures. The wood on the drivers side at the rear window before the tailgate does not lookto be original. I also see a great deal of wood filler between alot of the joints. Also when you get the picture of the front coil spring did anyone notice the metal spacer that is in the front coil spring. This car was not restored but has been maintained and has been made to look good. Where is the spare tire and rim. For 40k i would expect this to be there and also the engine compartment could be cleaner. If i remember correctly the firewall is black and the body is yellow, is this correct. Before anyone buys its go over the pictures closely that alot of money. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com Quote
FlyingDutchman Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 The market has totally tanked on old classic cars. It's not 2005, post Enron scandal anymore. When it was unsafe to trust corporations and the market, everyone invested in old cars, then the economy took a dump and the cars are now worth about 1/8th of what they were bringing in 2005. I see people all the time that are like 'Got $250K into this car, will sacrifice at $175K.' Umm, no, you'll settle for the first $60K that shows up. Cars are a losing proposition and it is all about the journey not the destination. I know I can get a basically mint D-24 for about $9K, but I am having fun working on mine and I will probably spent more than $9K to make a car that's worth about $4K in the end. If I were looking for a $40K woody, I certainly wouldn't start on Ebay... I would be hiring a broker or scout to help me find one or seek one independently. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 If you really want a good woodie study up- a lot!. Have a knowledgable professional help you personally inspect the car if you are not familiar with high end exterior varnished bodied cars! Some of the E-bay MoPar woodies are not what you need or should own unless you have plenty of money to burn to fix the hidden poorly repaired wood issues let alone other issues. I have been around a lot of the more complicated wood bodied T&C's, done a lot of work on them ect so I know quite a bit about the wooden cars. If you want a woodie spend the money and buy a good one-not on E-Pay. Good ones come from private sellers IMO. I have had my 1948 T&C convert for nearly 35 years and have never refinished it since 1978 and the re-varnished original wood still looks new! Of course it only goes to car shows on rainless day events. Maintenence on it is minimal. Woodies are cool! Even got the T&C wooden hat! Bob Quote
flatheadtim Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) type in "woody" in the search box on craiglist example http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/3013186469.html Edited May 17, 2012 by flatheadtim Quote
RobertKB Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 I have had my 1948 T&C convert for nearly 35 years and have never refinished it since 1978 and the re-varnished original wood still looks new! Of course it only goes to car shows on rainless day events. Maintenence on it is minimal. Woodies are cool! Even got the T&C wooden hat!Bob Very nice looking car! The T&C's are sure beautiful looking cars but I would be like you, only taking it out on rain free days! My brother had a wooden boat and the maintenance on it was non-stop, labour intensive, and eventually too much...............it got sold. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 I wood never own a wooden boat unless I was so rich I could have the wood shop crew freshen it up after every few outings. Own a wood boat-better be good at varnishing the wood boat. A retired land yacht is simple to maintain now days. Bob Quote
Merle Coggins Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 I LOVE those Town & Country's. At the '07 WPC meet in Chicago area there were 17 or 18 in attendance. I had a chance to hang out with them one day. Great cars. Quote
DCurrent Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 currently on e-bay there is a '49 ply woody. a real desirable car.! priced at 40,000$ maybe some wood problems but car looks ok.....my question.. there has been no bidding on this car.! am i missing something.? i have seen other woodies for over $100k. I haven't dealt much with Mopar for long and I'm no expert by any means. But the problem with the car is the make not to mention the economy. Everyone knows what the economy has done, but First I better explain my personal experience. As most know arguably Chevy and ford pretty much dominate the US as far as classic cars go. When I started looking for a convertible to buy I wasn't thinking Plymouth. They always seemed to be the economy car to me in the 80s and 90s. I was thinking along the lines of Buick, Chevrolet, and possibly Ford. Then I seen the prices of those mentioned with a rag-top. There was no way I could afford one now even with the now lower economy prices. However Plymouth which I had no interest in at the time was cheap or undervalued in anothers opinion. If it weren't for someone pointing it out to me I probably would have forgotten all about buying a convertible. They are kind of like the Buick GS. The Chevy and fords dominate the auctions with ridicules 5 figure values, but the GS just as fast or even more so is 20% the cost of the latter. 40s Plymouth's are just one of those makes that are not real desirable thus the demand isn't there to run the prices up. Another instance is the Chevy, Buick, Ford convertibles. You can't touch a decent 40s or 50s convertible for less than $20,000. The Plymouth I think is just an adorable car, but demand isn't there so a 40s convertible can be had for less than $10,000! A comparable Chevy convertible I garantee you will be double that if it's nice. The plymouth 2 door coupes seem to go for 5-7k. The sad part of it all is even though the current owner spends 10k to get it road worthy it will still only bring 5-7k. So why would anyone want to spend $40,000 for a car that is only worth $15,000 at best. On the positive side of owning a 40s Plymouth the parts are cheap compared to other makes. The only expensive parts that I have witnessed so far is the OD and clocks, but a complete parts car can be had for 2k. Just my thoughts! Darren Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) This $40,000 P18 Woodie is a Patch er up and hope to snag a sucker offering. But they do say it has the period correct stereo and a bit of the original wood- Edited May 17, 2012 by Dodgeb4ya Quote
40P10touring sedan Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 While I do like my mopars, this 37 ford woody wagon calls to me too...alittle, and oddly enough no-one has touched it. Go figure.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370609513797 We were down there last year for vacation and never got to stop in...good thing as I would've drooled all over the place I'd bet! Quote
dezeldoc Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 Nice car but way over priced. I have a soft spot for 37 Fords, my first old car was a 37 Ford pick up, still got it 30 years later! Quote
falconvan Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 Nice car but for me one of the attractive things about the early Mopars is the prices. I've had 6 of these cars now and the most I paid for one is $2200. It seems like most of the guys on here are also of the budget minded variety. Quote
desoto1939 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 When looking at the right rear side of the car and the piece of wood that form the whhel wheel should not been used. You can see what looks like a knot mark inthe wood and also notice the two tone coloring in this section. The rest of the wood on the drivers side is so near perfect and this piece sticks out like a sore thumb and it is just over the wheel well and you eye is taken right to this section. And you stillhave mechnaical brakes. A show car and not even a thought of a driver. Rich Hartung desoto1939@aol.com Quote
Ed Griffin Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 If you'd like to get an idea whats involved in breaking down a 48 B1B Dodge woodie wagon I have several pictures of different stages of the wood breakdown. This is from Joe Griffins shop. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v136/19489Dodge/1948%20Dodge%20B1B%20108%20Woodie%20Wagon%20project/ He's been restoring Woodies for years along with about any other vehicles as well. Quote
BobT-47P15 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Posted May 20, 2012 dang......where did they ever find that original stereo????? Quote
Niel Hoback Posted May 20, 2012 Report Posted May 20, 2012 Must be the "original" mounting too. An option we are not aware of. Quote
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