air conditioning.

[michael.warshaw]

im sure this topic has been discussed, is anyne making a kit for the p15? i know in the summer when my car was driving around, that it waslike 100 degrees here in ny, and i was sweating, and it was quite uncomfortable. and my heat guage went to almost over heating mark, i was scared, what could we use to cool the motors down in the hot weather?

[RobertKB]

im sure this topic has been discussed, is anyne making a kit for the p15? i know in the summer when my car was driving around, that it waslike 100 degrees here in ny, and i was sweating, and it was quite uncomfortable. and my heat guage went to almost over heating mark, i was scared, what could we use to cool the motors down in the hot weather?

The air conditioning would cool you down but as it takes horsepower to work the air conditioning compressor, it would make your motor run hotter yet. When you engine is being rebuilt they should replace the water distribution tube if necessary, you can add a six blade fan or an electric fan (neither is OEM), make sure timing is right, and have your radiator flushed clean. The engine should have been thoroughly flushed before the rebuild. These things all help the motor run cooler. I believe some on the forum have added air conditioning to their P15's and still use the original flathead but I have no idea what is involved. I love hot weather and seldom use the air conditioning in my daily driver.

[michael.warshaw]

if its 65 -75 no air conditioning needed but when it hits 90 its hot at traffic lights.

[Plymouthy Adams]

enter the next entry into the street rod class...

[michael.warshaw]

enter the next entry into the street rod class...

not so much street rod, but cool in air my car.

[boxer_inv]

There have been discussions on A/C on the board before - I've done the searches myself on this same topic, as its something I'm thinking of down the track. I think that it was Lou Earle who had an A/C setup in his car.

Given that I'm in the tropics, and in the event that my cars end up being used for any type of commercial work beyond my own enjoyment (such as weddings etc), then A/C will need to be a consideration for my two old girls.

Much research needed.

[RobertKB]

It makes you wonder how people survived before air conditioning was prevalent. None of these old cars came with air conditioning but the human race survived. We are all too used to the mod-cons. World War II was fought without air conditioned vehicles. People survived the Depression without it. Coca Cola did not originally come out of fridges ice cold. I personally love the heat of a prairie summer and if it means I get a bit sweaty in my car, so be it. Soak under the hose or have a shower.

I have taken wedding couples in my cars in the middle of the summer and they just know it is going to be hot. I explain that to them at the time they rent the car. If they want it cool.....rent a new limo. Most who want an old car want it because it is old.....not cool. LOL

Most of these old girls with the cowl vent open, quarter windows facing you, and the rear windows down are actually pretty comfortable on a hot day. I drove my '38 Chrysler from Great Falls, Montana, to my home in Lethbridge, Alberta (about 200 miles) on a day where it was close to 100F and with the above mentioned items opened, the car was still pretty decent. This is a black car as well.

Just my thoughts for what they are worth and they may not be worth much.

Edited January 14, 2010 by RobertKB

[dezeldoc]

Here ya go, period correct!!

[LAKOTA169]

I have factory air on my '37. I just crank open the windshield and the cowl vent. Works great. Unless you get stuck in a traffic jam.

[jd52cranbrook]

Several people on here have it. I am running Vintage Air in my 52. Glad I did it.

[mackster]

Here ya go, period correct!!

It only needs to be period correct if no one can see it, like inside the engine! outside it can be street rod.. .

hey! what if the AC is put in backwards so that it sends the cool air in the engine compartment. will it keep the car cooler? Man, its late...I better go to bed.

[boxer_inv]

It makes you wonder how people survived before air conditioning was prevalent. None of these old cars came with air conditioning but the human race survived.

There was a time without air-conditioning???????!!!!!!:eek:

Kidding of course... For my own, I totally agree that its fine driving with the vents open and windows down for my own comfort level. Not sure about a 'fully-laden' bride wanting all that air movement with her hair etc. Not that I've got to worry about that sort of thing now - I've got to get the cars finished first!!

[Captain Neon]

Here ya go, period correct!!

Dunno how well that would work with the humidity coming off the Hudson and the Harbour. I did look into getting a similar unit when I lived in Colorado. However, only having to count on one hand the whole year that I lived there where I wished I had AC, other things seemed more pressing than locating and installing a swamp cooler.

[dezeldoc]

Tick was to put ice in them, that way you had a few miles of comfort.

[Frank Elder]

It only needs to be period correct if no one can see it, like inside the engine! outside it can be street rod.. .

hey! what if the AC is put in backwards so that it sends the cool air in the engine compartment. will it keep the car cooler? Man, its late...I better go to bed.

QUACKQUACKQUACK:eek:

[Oldguy48]

im sure this topic has been discussed, is anyne making a kit for the p15? i know in the summer when my car was driving around, that it waslike 100 degrees here in ny, and i was sweating, and it was quite uncomfortable. and my heat guage went to almost over heating mark, i was scared, what could we use to cool the motors down in the hot weather?

Michael,

Take a look at oldairproducts.com. They have a heater/defrost/AC unit that's roughly the size of the stock P15 heater. Based on the drawings and dimensions on their website, I think one of these units would be a fairly easy installation. However, they are designed for 12 volt operation. If you're sticking with 6 volts, you may have to resort to the cowl vent/open window temperature control.

[bearheart]

The things that hang on the outside of the passenger door? Do they contain ice/water or what? How do they work?

[michael.warshaw]

Michael,

Take a look at oldairproducts.com. They have a heater/defrost/AC unit that's roughly the size of the stock P15 heater. Based on the drawings and dimensions on their website, I think one of these units would be a fairly easy installation. However, they are designed for 12 volt operation. If you're sticking with 6 volts, you may have to resort to the cowl vent/open window temperature control.

thanks

[Dennis Hemingway]

Here is my air conditioning, this works great out here in the Mojave Desert. I don't know how they would work in a place with high humidity as it uses evaporation to cool the air. But it is period correct.

Dennis:cool:

[Plymouthy Adams]

read what you will believe who you may...applcation is ALL the difference...currently to my knowledge there are but two units on the market today that are MOPAR compatable per say due to the BULGE on the firewall center...units must have proper room for incoming hose connection, top defroster ducting and not interfere with the cowl vent..if you think for a second none of this matter...have fun...!! I have installed the generic units by the top brand names not dedicated to Mopar..lots and lots of mods to keep all items funcitonal..doable but quite time involved ..do not let them talk you into a electronic controller headache..!! they are proprietory software..but of course if you like shelling out a few hundred everytime it burbs..go for it..analog is totally compatable with most factory control panels with factory original knobs etc...

have fun ...do your research...

[JIPJOBXX]

I have a swamp cooler on my car but they really do not work very well if your in an area where there is allot of moisture in the air. They work best in the southwest! No humidity. Now here is a A/C set up that really works!

[John Mulders]

maybe a chicken and the egg question.

In the old days you would be driving so you would get cool air through the vents, nowadays you are more standing still so no moving air.

Is that the why all the cars need the airco's?

I also looked at it as the temperature here is always around 90 but have so much more to do before I will look at an airco.

Especially with the cowlvent working now

John

[Don Coatney]

Tick was to put ice in them, that way you had a few miles of comfort.

Actually ice does not improve the cooling on a swamp cooler. The chill comes from the temperature drop as water evaporates. Lick your finger and blow on it. Your finger will feel cold. That is the evaporitive cooling effect. Evaporitive coolers work only in low humidity areas such as the deserts of California. They will not work in high humidity areas such as the midwest and eastern portions of the US.

[dezeldoc]

Actually ice does not improve the cooling on a swamp cooler. The chill comes from the temperature drop as water evaporates. Lick your finger and blow on it. Your finger will feel cold. That is the evaporitive cooling effect. Evaporitive coolers work only in low humidity areas such as the deserts of California. They will not work in high humidity areas such as the midwest and eastern portions of the US.

Don, you telling a desert rat how a swamp cooler works!

[JIPJOBXX]

Yea I stuffed my swamp cooler with ice and then placed a good fan directly in frount of the intake and it did not make a difference. I even closed up the windows and I swear it got hotter.

Now they do have some a/c units that fit in the trunk but you still haft to have A/C pump up on the old six. And when your barely putting out 100 hp that old A/C can put a real drag on your engine. I like the idea with gen set on the old car that I placed here.