Don Coatney Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 I am posting this auction as I feel the information the seller is giving is not 100% correct. First off I dont believe George Asche knows that the seller is using his name to support this sale. And secondly I dont believe there is anything special about this oil pump. The standard oil pump I installed in my engine is a gear pump and redily available. If anyone has other information about this pump please post it here. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1934-59-Plymouth-Dodge-NOS-MoPar-old-SPEED-Equipment_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a317Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c293Q3a3Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem120376387722QQitemZ120376387722QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Quote
blueskies Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 Don't know anything about this pump, but the Vintage Power Wagons "new oil pump" is listed as having "higher volume and PSI" for $139. Pete Quote
Captain Neon Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 I'm no expert, but it appears to me to be just an OEM oil pump manufactured by an aftermarket supplier. No different than if the oil pump was in an O'Reilly's or NAPA box. In sixty years will some body going to try and sell my Wix oil filters as high performance oil filters just because they don't say MoPar on the box? Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 Don't know anything about this pump, but the Vintage Power Wagons "new oil pump" is listed as having "higher volume and PSI" for $139.Pete Yes, but this one is on ebay. That alone means it's worth at least a hundred bucks more. Quote
blueskies Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) The pump in the auction is different from a stock pump, at least on the outside... Here's a stock pump: And here's the pump on the auction: Note that the base of the pump is not the same. Pete Edited April 29, 2012 by blueskies Quote
greg g Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 Oh yea, that's our friend or friends or consortium, or conglomerate that used to come aboard once in a while and pontificate his/their version of MOPAR dogma. No longer on the member list. Quote
Fluid drive Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 You guys don't miss much! Chrysler engineers found out that the rotor ( actually called gear - rotor as opposed to plain gear ) type pump produced better volume at operating temperature and viscosity than the old gear pump. This happened in the late 30s . When I started working on cars all they had available were gear pumps . I remember the rotor pumps coming out around 1939. Unless this pump is some specially made part he is misrepresenting it. Quote
greg g Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 somebody send an question. Explaination should be truely enlightening. Quote
dezeldoc Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 Hmmm if I remember correctly Mopar Preformance did not come about till the 90's!! before that it was Direct Connection. I smell BS!! Quote
PatS.... Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 $250!!!??? For an oil pump?? For a flat six?? Must be on crack. Even if it is "high performance" I don't think the difference would be measurable OR worth $250. That's not to say it won't sell. There's one born every day, just ask Bernie Madoff Quote
RobertKB Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 There's one born every minute and the seller just needs to find the one that thinks he needs the pump at this price. Quote
Andydodge Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 Maybe its installed in your car by Walter P Chrysler hisself.........or its gold plated..........either way I'll stick with my new rotor pump...........this one on ebays got a nice shiney box tho'......andyd Quote
radioguy7 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 somebody send an question. Explaination should be truely enlightening. I sent him a question asking what makes the pump a high volume pump. His reply was that it was a geared pump therefor it was high volume !! Jeff Quote
Norm's Coupe Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 Actually, back when I was rebuilding my engine in about 1998 and searching for parts, I found an oil pump for our cars at JC Whitney. I didn't buy it because mine was OK, but the price was only about $50 then. I mentioned this to a few people back at that time on the old forum. At least a couple of them did buy the JC Whitney one and said it worked fine. So.......I would think you can still buy them at JC Whitney for maybe $60 or $70 tops. They were in the paper catalog, don't know about the online catalog. Quote
Frank Elder Posted February 14, 2009 Report Posted February 14, 2009 Sooo, that makes the original box worth $200:D Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted February 14, 2009 Report Posted February 14, 2009 I sent him a question asking what makes the pump a high volume pump. His reply was that it was a geared pump therefor it was high volume !!Jeff I asked him twice for specs on his pump in GPM or GPH. He only replied sump pumps are rated in GPH. No other answer-What a BS'er!! Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted February 14, 2009 Report Posted February 14, 2009 as this pumps scavenges off the bottom of the pan and the pan itself is designed to have a lower section refered to as a sump..then by all mean he must have an answer... Quote
Don Coatney Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Posted February 14, 2009 I asked him twice for specs on his pump in GPM or GPH. He only replied sump pumps are rated in GPH. No other answer-What a BS'er!! You should ask him if George Asche recommends this pump. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted February 14, 2009 Report Posted February 14, 2009 You should ask him if George Asche recommends this pump. Don, I don't think I should bother Mr "W" the fireman anymore ! He doesn't like my questions! Quote
47heaven Posted February 15, 2009 Report Posted February 15, 2009 I am posting this auction as I feel the information the seller is giving is not 100% correct. First off I dont believe George Asche knows that the seller is using his name to support this sale. And secondly I dont believe there is anything special about this oil pump. The standard oil pump I installed in my engine is a gear pump and redily available. If anyone has other information about this pump please post it here. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1934-59-Plymouth-Dodge-NOS-MoPar-old-SPEED-Equipment_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a317Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c293Q3a3Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem120376387722QQitemZ120376387722QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Thanks, Don. I was bidding on that, but now everyone knows. Quote
jd52cranbrook Posted February 15, 2009 Report Posted February 15, 2009 Looks like he changed his discription? Quote
Don Coatney Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Posted February 16, 2009 Thanks, Don. I was bidding on that, but now everyone knows. If you were bidding on that you are a bigger fool than I thought you were:D I just saved you a bunch of money:cool: Quote
Don Coatney Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Posted February 16, 2009 Looks like he changed his discription? Did not notice. How did he change the discription? Quote
jd52cranbrook Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 In the discription, to me anyway it says it is a gear driven pump, higher volume not pressure. Not sure if that was there before or not. Quote
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