Are these window channels and roller assemblies correct for 48 DeSoto coupe?

[MarcDeSoto]

I bought a pair of window channels a few years ago and I'm wondering if they are correct.  According to parts to my S-11 Parts List, I need 1152286 for the right channel and 1151821 for the left channel.  The only channels that are the same are the club coupe and the business coupe.  The part numbers on my NOS channels are 2236451 and the other one has no part number.  Maybe this number is just a manufactering number and not a Mopar number.  I checked my 1942 DeSoto Parts list and it's not that.  I also checked my 1949 Dodge Parts LIst and it's not that.  Could it be a 1941 part no.?  I don't know.  Does anyone know?  Also how hard is it to install a new window pane in the front door and should I seek an auto window shop if it's a job for a pro?  

[LazyK]

Setting new glass is not a big issue. You will need "setting tape" of the correct thickness. Several you tube videos show the process.

[desoto1939]

I looked in My Globe window regulator catalog and her is the page from the catalog and the part number are used across the industry.

 

First picture is the listing of the channel and the second picture is of the channel picture 288 and 289. This is why I have the large collection of catalogs to verify what people are selling.

 

The old way was to use setting tape but the glass installer might just use the black silicone caulking and this permits them to move the glass when the setting the glass in the channels.

 

Rich Hartung

 

 

 

 

 

[MarcDeSoto]

Rich, thanks for those catalog pages.  Only you would have material like that!  Should you grease the rollers before installing?  So would you recommend handing the job over to a auto window technician?

Edited December 14, 2022 by MarcDeSoto

[desoto1939]

I would let the expert handle the total installation. It gets tight inthis area. Ask them about greasing the rollers.

 

Rich

[Sam Buchanan]

Oh yeah…….your local 24 year-old body shop tech will be very familiar with a 1948 Desoto……… ?

 

I replaced the glass in the driver door of my P15, this is not a job to fear. 

[Sniper]

The guys old enough to have worked on these cars when they were new are pushing 90+ these days.  All the experience going away.

[desoto1939]

If you go to an automobile glass installation the principals of putting in door glass is basically the same. Instead of using glass setting tape they now use silicone caulking.

So the issue is that you need to do is your homework to ask the questions if they can and have installed glass in older cars. You glass is placed inthe channel and then place in the guides that control the way the glass and the regulator controls the upward and downward movement of the glass via the window crank handle.

 

Yes the old time glass mechanics have basically all died but the prinicipels are still the same.  During the last several year's prior to retirement I delivered automobile glass windshields and side glass to private installers from the general area around Philadelphia all the way up to the Poconos and many of these owners were young guys.

 

Rich Hartung

[DJ194950]

We sort of, still have one glass company that still will work on old car auto glass install.

 

The big But now is that they will only do it at their shop by appointment. Estimates after being at their shop. Only 2 people left at the company with  4 ;locations in the area..

Do you have all of the proper materials and gaskets for the job the receptionist asked?

 

The company name is Don's mobile glass.  Been around for 50 plus years.  Started out of the back of a 51 Chevy car.!

 

They do do (mobile)  glass work of all kinds but not for old cars, cut flat glass etc, but?.

 

Cost of their work no clue but with no completion I do not expect to be reasonable.

 

Love our old cars but is getting hard and expensive to work on.

 

DJ

[MarcDeSoto]

I think I'm going to just take it, like Groucho says, to my DeSoto/Plymouth dealer, and tell 'em Groucho sent me!  Will the 22 year old guy at the glass shop know what I'm talking about?  I'm just going to study the Part List that has a blow up of the parts inside the door.  Looks like it consists of putting the window in the door and connecting it to the arm and pivot assy.  And putting the rollers in between the vertical channels.  Then connecting the regulator arm to the arm and pivot assy.  Piece of cake, only you are working blind in tight quarters!  Luckily, Mark of ihazwings on youtube made a detailed and wonderful video covering this subject on his 41 Plymouth.  Who does that?  Luckily he did.  His videos were so well made, that I was sad when he stopped making them.  

 

 

[Dan Hiebert]

Installing the side glass in our era cars is not hard at all, I did all of ours.  It took a while, more because that's how I operate, but I thought it was relatively simple.  Personally, with the use of the silicone caulk (the glass shops will call it glue), I think it would be even easier.  I've even been pondering redoing the side glass in our D24 because I wasn't really thrilled with how the job using setting tape went.  Anyhoo, any reputable auto glass shop should be able to handle installing glass in the old channels, it's the same process as modern ones.  I just had the side glass and vents done for my brother-in-law's '57 Ford at a local shop owned by a fellow younger than me (yeah, sometimes that's my litmus test).  He didn't even bat an eye at the job.  And, yes, you should grease the rollers.  Manual probably calls for white lithium or similar lubricant, but I use NAPA's Syl-glide for things like that.  Doesn't harden over time.

[MarcDeSoto]

I think I'm going to look for some of that silicone caulk to set the window instead of the window tape.  Anyone know of a vendor for it?  Thanks!

 

[desoto1939]

19 minutes ago, MarcDeSoto said:

I think I'm going to look for some of that silicone caulk to set the window instead of the window tape.  Anyone know of a vendor for it?  Thanks!

 

Mark: just contact and automotive glass store and tell them what you are doing with your Desoto. They will be glad to help you and sometimes they even might give you a cartridge of the black silicone or even sell one to you. Also by contacting them they might even provide you with helpful hints and or might even provide you with a cost estimate.

 

Rich Hartung

[Sam Buchanan]

5 hours ago, MarcDeSoto said:

I think I'm going to look for some of that silicone caulk to set the window instead of the window tape.  Anyone know of a vendor for it?  Thanks!

 

I used windshield adhesive from the local auto parts store.

[allbizz49]

The tape is butyl and the caulk is urethane, not silicone. I've done quite a bit of glass using both. Really not that difficult.