1952Cranbrook Posted October 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Thank you to everyone for all of the great knowledge and advice, I decided to pull the trigger on it yesterday and picked it up! Judging by my shop manual it appears to have come with the OD solenoid, governor, lockout rail switch, as well as a spot to hook up reverse lights(new addition for me) Did not come with an overdrive relay or kickdown switch. @woodie49 If you had any information on a workaround for fabricating the the overdrive relay system, that would be super! @DJ194950 Interesting... Do you know wether a 1955 would have come with a 6v or 12v solenoid? Or how to tell on the solenoid? The car it is going into is 6v.. Interested in seeing if I can recreate the system with modern relay and whether I can duplicate the action of the kickdown switch using something else. And another quick question for anyone with knowledge about these transmissions, after sitting overnight, it seemed to collect oil by the backend of the trans as you can see in the picture below. Can’t tell if this seems like a leak or just like oil residue from something else. Wondering if I should be concerned or track it down before I get it on the car and it’s too late... You guys think the rear seal is leaking? Again, thank you guys so much for the knowledge and info. You guys are awesome!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loren Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Okay it looks like you got everything but the relay and throttle switch. 1955 Plymouths are 6 volt. There are reproduction relays which are 6 or 12 volt. All the switches and governors can be used with either. Looks like you'll need a rear seal. Take the old one to NAPA and get a modern seal. If your old transmission's e-brake parts will fit I'd just transfer them. PM me your email address and I'll send you a manual file you can print and you'll know as much as anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loren Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 I went into the archives and found this letter announcing the "New Overdrive" for Plymouths. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Elder Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 I see you bought it, congrats, on a side note if I ever got a overdrive it would be a studebaker model from borg warner because that model of the R10 has no fluid drive module........? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ194950 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Most of the R-10 OD solenoids are stamped on the out side case near the electrical terminals with either a 6V. or 12V. . Not hard to see. Otherwise a web search with the stamped part # will tell. DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 Search for ford overdrive parts. You should be able to find reproduction cables and relays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booger Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) On 10/23/2020 at 5:12 PM, Adam H P15 D30 said: Here it is guys and gals.... I'm not cutting my brand new driveshaft. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/pts/d/menlo-park-chrysler-dodge-hemi-c/7203882881.html Edited October 26, 2020 by michaelmarks697@yahoo.com delete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booger Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/25/2020 at 2:58 PM, 1952Cranbrook said: Thank you to everyone for all of the great knowledge and advice, I decided to pull the trigger on it yesterday and picked it up! Judging by my shop manual it appears to have come with the OD solenoid, governor, lockout rail switch, as well as a spot to hook up reverse lights(new addition for me) Did not come with an overdrive relay or kickdown switch. @woodie49 If you had any information on a workaround for fabricating the the overdrive relay system, that would be super! @DJ194950 Interesting... Do you know wether a 1955 would have come with a 6v or 12v solenoid? Or how to tell on the solenoid? The car it is going into is 6v.. Interested in seeing if I can recreate the system with modern relay and whether I can duplicate the action of the kickdown switch using something else. And another quick question for anyone with knowledge about these transmissions, after sitting overnight, it seemed to collect oil by the backend of the trans as you can see in the picture below. Can’t tell if this seems like a leak or just like oil residue from something else. Wondering if I should be concerned or track it down before I get it on the car and it’s too late... You guys think the rear seal is leaking? Again, thank you guys so much for the knowledge and info. You guys are awesome!!! awesome I hope this thing works, keep us updated with your project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Rhoden Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 I would like to change my manual transmission to and automatic. What will hook up to bell housing? Do I need an adapter and where can I find one? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 To the best of my knowledge there is no fully automatic transmission that will bolt on to either the engine or the bellhousing. Wilcap does/did make an adapter that will let you put a a couple of different GM automatics behind one though. https://www.wilcap.com/chryslerfh.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 The flathead could be had with a powerflite 2 spd automatic. I believe that same adapter will allow an early torqueflite to also bolt up. I'm not sure how current of a trans will attach though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Murphy Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 I installed an overdrive unit from a '52 Plymouth in my '50 Plymouth Woodie. When I engage the overdrive, pushing the cable, all I get is free wheeling. It won't shift into the higher gear. any advice? thanks Paul M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg g Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) Sounds like an eletrical problem. You need to verify if the relay is sending power to the solenoid, and that the governor is providing a proper ground for the solenoid to operate. For a simple test you can make a switched temporary ground wire to bypass the governor. This would allow you to control the grounding manually. If you look in the downloads section of this site you will find a pdf file of the borg warner r 10 operators manual. It includes the factory wiring g schematic, a troubleshooting guide, and a simplified wiring schematic that bypasses the kickdown switch. Are you running the factory kick down circuit? The other important issue is wire size. The od components draw a significant Amp draw. Your wires need to be up to the task. On mine, I have a twisted pair of 10 gauge wire powering the relay, and going from the relay to the solenoid. If I remember correctly the solenoid pulls 12 amps on the pull in circuit, and 8 amps on the hold in circuit. Don't skimp on wire size. I believe I used 12 gauge on all the other od related wires. Soldered connections are the wway to go, if you use crimp connectors use good ones. Then assure all the connections are clean and tight. The normal road speed for the governor to connect the solenoid ground is around 38 give or take due to age and condition of the part. Edited July 18, 2022 by greg g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Murphy Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 thanks very much, Greg! I'll try your advice and post the results here. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepkat63 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 @1952Cranbrook Im in the same boat as you were. I've just found an R10 box, but was wondering if you'd please share where you ended up getting the rest of the parts from (or modern equivalent) and a few photos if you have the time please? All I have is the box but understand the other parts I require. I am running 12v. (thanks in advance, will save me a week of google searching !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ194950 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 Suggest you try EBay US and AUS. versions. Available I think are still at : 12volt and 6 volt .. Not the cheap way but . . . fifthaveinternetgarage.com/overdrive_parts.php https://fifthaveinternetgarage.com/index.php DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepkat63 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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