Don Coatney Posted February 11, 2014 Report Posted February 11, 2014 Frank To answer your WHY, by attaching the oil return directly to the oil pan you create a (more of) full-flow system. When you use the regular line input, your back in the by-pass mode, which only filters part of the oil when the pressure relief valve is open. If you have a 46-54 manual the relief valve is illustrated on page 153. If you want me to scan it send me a PM. A full flow system filters 100% of the oil BEFORE it goes to the engine. The FRANTZ filter is not full flow, it picks up the oil from the oil galley and the oil in the galley is supplying the engine before it is filtered thus it is a by-pass system. 1 Quote
Frank Elder Posted February 11, 2014 Report Posted February 11, 2014 As back pressure is frequently encountered...gotcha. Quote
Frank Elder Posted February 11, 2014 Report Posted February 11, 2014 Frank To answer your WHY, by attaching the oil return directly to the oil pan you create a (more of) full-flow system. When you use the regular line input, your back in the by-pass mode, which only filters part of the oil when the pressure relief valve is open. If you have a 46-54 manual the relief valve is illustrated on page 153. If you want me to scan it send me a PM. Thank you, no scan needed...unless its a ct. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted February 12, 2014 Report Posted February 12, 2014 IF TP was so great why is it not in every oil filter being marketed today...I will tell you...the Frantz TP system is just another form of by-pass filtration...suggest that a full read be done on the filter of question..personally I find TP just barely adequate for the job in which it was specifically designed for....and to be of any effectiveness at all as an oil filter...it has to be a pretty dense "John Wayne" paper to begin, rough, tough and takes no crap of anyone...I would not use this to even filter oil just to burn on a trash fire... Quote
Don Coatney Posted February 12, 2014 Report Posted February 12, 2014 In this application at least the TP is used on both sides so the efficiency is double that of normal usage. Quote
48ply1stcar Posted February 13, 2014 Report Posted February 13, 2014 Does anyone use a remote oil filter adapter and a spin-on by-pass from Napa or Fram? Quote
48ply1stcar Posted February 13, 2014 Report Posted February 13, 2014 Since I have the motor on one side of the garage and the car on the other - I thought there was a few things I could change. What filter do you use and can you use it with something like a Mr. Gasket adapter? Was there a special adapter that you had to buy? Until now I have used the sealed cans, but they can gotten to expensive and I've always wanted to convert to a spin-on. Quote
kented Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 On my '50: Is that the Moon (Mooneyes) remote oil filter? Looks similar but $245 is a pretty price to pay Quote
Dave72dt Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 I consider that an "I want" item and would have no problem dropping the cash on it if I wanted it bad enough. It's surely not an " I need" item. That's what all hobbies are really including this car or truck thing we have going on. Whatever car or truck you have and are playing with is really an "I want". Most of us have something much newer that we use as our main transportation and we don't "need" these old cars and trucks, just "want" them. Pay to play. jmo Quote
DJ194950 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 Here is the close to filter set up I use. Wix mount #24755- google this info and find prices $25-35 ea. various locations Filter Wix # 51050 10 micron by-pass type fllter About $10 most locations. mopar bypass filter-wix 51050 oic.bmp Quote
TodFitch Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 Here is the close to filter set up I use. Wix mount #24755- google this info and find prices $25-35 ea. various locations Filter Wix # 51050 10 micron by-pass type fllter About $10 most locations. I hadn't seen that particular filter before. Looks like a good one for bypass applications with its 10 micron media and 1 to 3 gallons/minute flow rate. I'll have to re-think my plans for what to do after I run out of my stock of disposable canisters, this looks like a really good option. Quote
kented Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 I consider that an "I want" item and would have no problem dropping the cash on it if I wanted it bad enough. It's surely not an " I need" item. That's what all hobbies are really including this car or truck thing we have going on. Whatever car or truck you have and are playing with is really an "I want". Most of us have something much newer that we use as our main transportation and we don't "need" these old cars and trucks, just "want" them. Pay to play. jmo I'm all for spending money on the old gal but if i can find one that looks similar to the moon one and half the price i'll buy it haha Quote
HughForrest Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 Is that the Moon (Mooneyes) remote oil filter? Looks similar but $245 is a pretty price to pay Mine is a Stilko and no where near that expensive. Mosey over to bobistheoilguy.com where there is much discussion about bypass filters in general, and tp-element filters (Frantz, Stilko, Motor Guard, and others) in particular. They are as passionate there about oil as we here are about old Mopars. Quote
desoto1939 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 The cost of the drop in filter at a napa for napa 1010 gold is about 10 dollars. I have an AC unit on my car. But why is everybody so worried about it is a full flow or partial flow filtering system. BAsically we are not using these cars as the dailoy driver. Since most of these cars have survived, including the engines trans, rear ends, winters and snow up to the inde of the fender wells, mud, dirt, rain and what ever else was thrown at the car or truck during its everday usuage and they were running with oilss that were not a refined as they are today then what so much worry which filter to use. If the old style worked for them then and you car is running well I do not think we are going to destroy the engine because we are not using a less then 5 micron filtering system. We are spending money to support someones pocket book. Just think about it some more. In my mind the old is just good for me and my unit get warm and hot inthe oil canister so I am not worried about the filtering system. the Newer filter have anti back flow stopage gaskets and the this is need on our newer cars . Just my 20 cents Rich Hartung desoto1939@aol.com Quote
Robert Horne Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 Today, I was reading an article in a magazine about a life-time oil filter bypass system. One only has to remove the filter and wash with gas, ever so often. The filter is a cone shaped bronze that fits in our canister type oil filter systems. The magazine was from October, 1954...... I have an old glass bowl fuel filter with a brass or bronze filter unit. It is many layers attached together.... Quote
Don Coatney Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 The Oberg filter is also a lifetime filter. The screen is cleanable. Quote
48ply1stcar Posted February 15, 2014 Report Posted February 15, 2014 DJ194950 Thanks for the input. TodFitch I'm at that point now. I have always used sealed oil filters and I don't own a canister type oil filter. I don't want or need to change the internal oiling system of the car, I was just looking for a practical way to replace the sealed can. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted February 15, 2014 Report Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) I just posted the item you need on the e-bay craigslist section of this forum...you may want to take a look see..not mine and have no idea who the owner is..just passing along a tad of info is all Edited February 15, 2014 by Plymouthy Adams Quote
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