MoparAl- Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 Hi guys, has anyone had any joy in matching their original paint colour ? mine is Airwing Gray code 30003, ive been trying to match it to a RAL colour number but to no avail so far, any tips would be greatly appreciated. Alan. Quote
Young Ed Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 My shop called PPG directly and got a code for the closest possible match to cruiser maroon. Quote
dezeldoc Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 Most paint stores have a tool that they can match pretty close with, give one a call and see if they have one. i forgot the name of it. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 I have in the past tried chasing "authenic" paint formula and colors and on every turn from every major supplier of paints and including those that cater to the "old car" hobby and each and all have stated that the paint formula of today based on the codes of the past are indeed a formulation and not a guaranteed authetic match..where close enough is the operative word..paint today is not the same as in the old days..there in lies the large problem..get them to assure you a 100% match and the truth will out... Quote
bamfordsgarage Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 What matches rust ? Rustoleum textured brown and grey spray bombs can be blended to give a reasonable imitation of surface rust for chassis parts. The photo below shows brand new rear springs and shocks with their hideously shiny black paint hidden by textured Rustoleum. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 what do you use to make snow a truer white..we all know how to give it a yellow hue...I would hate to think someone actually went to the trouble to duplicate rust look..me thinks some thing are deeper than the aforementioned snow...lol Quote
1941Rick Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 Body shop here in town did a great job matching my color...hardest part was mixing a small quantity for touch up, but he did it.....had a large color palat with a hole in the center, you just keep looking until you find a match.... Quote
Mark D Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 My shop called PPG directly and got a code for the closest possible match to cruiser maroon. One of these days I am going to need that as I plan to replace the visor on my car with a Fulton model. You wouldn't have that color number on record would ya? Save me a search... thx Quote
MoparAl- Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Posted January 9, 2012 I'm gonna pop down to my local supplier to have a go with the colour cards, tis amazing that in this new world of technology that something so simple as matching colours still has to be dun the old way ! maybe thats why we love our old cars so much ? Quote
DCurrent Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 Most paint stores have a tool that they can match pretty close with, give one a call and see if they have one. i forgot the name of it. Finally a subject that I can help someone out with. No your paint cannot be matched identical to paint of 60 years ago. The problem lies in the base colors that make up your particular color. The bases today are formulated to pass epa regulations. No I'm not a fan of it, but it is what it is! Thats a whole nother subject. Anyway, the absolute best way to get a color to be sprayed to match a color of 60 or 70 years ago, is to find a spot that you want it to match. If your going for an original color... you must find an area where the sun doesn't shine. Places such as in the trunk, inside doors, under hoods, inside glove boxes, or under a dash are good starts. If you can take a part off of a car such as a gas door to your local paint store, or call your local professional paint store to make a visit to your house with their color matching camera. This camera is designed to get a close proximity of the color needed into todays base formulation. It literally takes a picture or several pictures to get results that the camera requires. Sometimes it is a dead on match, other times your not so lucky and it requires tinting by hand. There will probably never be a time when you can just walk into a paint store, give them a paint code, and be able to spray a perfectly matching color!!!! There are way to many varibles that add to the mix of a color. Just one exampl; Today parts are painted all over the world to assemble one car. The car is sprayed in Detroit, the bumpers are sprayed in Arizona, the handles are sprayed in Canada, Mouldings from Mexico. You get the idea! All these factories use different paint brands, mix the paint in different quantities, and some have different regulations and acceptable standards of how paint is mixed and applied. I could go on and on, but I think you can get an idea of why paint doesn't match and will never match. Quote
JerseyHarold Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 I wonder what the factory color-matching process was back when our cars were new. The bodies (at least for Plymouth) were painted by Briggs in their plant, and the front sheet metal and rear fenders were painted by Chrysler. The cars all had a uniform appearance when they were assembled. One more reason that it's tough to match old colors with today's paint: The old paints used lead in their base, now it's outlawed. Quote
White Spyder Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Check out the thread "Chopping Wood". There is a photo of the match that was done for my visor last month. The shop used the paint camera and I took that to the supply shop they worked with the PPG rep to get the formula in a single stage paint to match. They had to use a special base to make it work. Edited January 10, 2012 by White Spyder Quote
bamfordsgarage Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 what do you use to make snow a truer white..we all know how to give it a yellow hue...I would hate to think someone actually went to the trouble to duplicate rust look..me thinks some thing are deeper than the aforementioned snow...lol I'm not sure what is being said here — however, if it a question of my sanity one can join the line behind my wife and my good friend Jerry! Seriously though, I expect we can all agree that appearance and finish, to look their best, should suit the car in question. For me that's rust, dust and crud. For the 99% — the rest of you — that's sparkle and shine. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 10, 2012 Report Posted January 10, 2012 I see what you are doing but had to put the rib in there..it is a manner of preserving you choose that also gives the look of neglect.. Quote
Dan Hiebert Posted January 10, 2012 Report Posted January 10, 2012 I called up Napa, they asked for the original manufacturer's paint code, and viola - "Original color". The store I go to has to order their paint in, but I ordered it in the morning and they had it that afternoon. Acme for the pimer/surfacer, and Martin Secour for the color. I'm happy with it. I ran other colors by them for giggles, and all they need is that original manufacturer paint code (not the paint company's number) - usually found on the manufacturer's data plate, but there are several websites that can provide that info, too. Quote
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