randygall Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) I have a B-2-D-126 Edited January 23, 2011 by randygall double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41/53dodges Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 i used 2x8's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manes Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Just a word here from an old car nut. Although, folks do what they want, and I do not have a problem with that at all, but nearly all trucks (including pickups used yellow pine--not oak). Most guys use red oak because it is sold by all the restorers, and it is a very nice looking wood when finished. Yellow pine needs to cure a few years before it turns a nice red mahogany color. My row-house in D. C. had trim in the bathroom and kitchen of yellow pine which was a beautiful red mahogany in color. I just put an oil finish on it, and it was great looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpwuertz Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I used some baseboard out of a 100 year old house we tore down at our farm. I just sanded and varnished the back side which had never been painted or stained. I do not know what kind of wood it is but it turned out pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Koch Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) The 1948 - 52 pilot-house trucks used oak, though not the most expensive grade. It was always painted black, never natural color. In 53 Dodge went to hard yellow pine. Personally I can't see covering beautiful wood with paint and perfer the natural pattern and color of the wood to show. Edited January 23, 2011 by Bob_Koch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanksB3B Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) Mar-K gave me Bruce Horkey's address before I knew about P15-D24. My Truck came with a structurally compromised (and butchered) bed that also must have been in a corner-hit accident. The stake pockets were the only thing worth salvaging so they were Fedex'd to Bruce, reconditioned and attacked to new metal sides. Horkey's Wood and Parts Bruce supplied a brand new tailgate, front panel, and unfinished ash (my choice). Every aspect of his workmanship was flawless. Even my body shop guy said "The guy that did the bed did an unbelievable job" Bruce knows the beds of our Dodge Trucks better that anyone and can supply pre-machined and unfinished wood, hardware and accessories. http://www.horkeyswoodandparts.com/ Hank Edited January 24, 2011 by HanksB3B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Koch Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Your pictures back up everything you said. What a great transformation. Mar-K gave me Bruce Horkey's address before I knew about P15-D24. My Truck came with a structurally compromised (and butchered) bed that also must have been in a corner-hit accident. The stake pockets were the only thing worth salvaging so they were Fedex'd to Bruce, reconditioned and attacked to new metal sides. Horkey's Wood and Parts Bruce supplied a brand new tailgate, front panel, and unfinished ash (my choice). Every aspect of his workmanship was flawless. Even my body shop guy said "The guy that did the bed did an unbelievable job" Bruce knows the beds of our Dodge Trucks better that anyone and can supply pre-machined and unfinished wood, hardware and accessories. http://www.horkeyswoodandparts.com/ Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanksB3B Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 This shows a bit more..I wish I could have gotten results that one of our fellow P15-D24 members was able to achieve by "shrinking" the metal. If you look at the picture with the bed on sawhorses its not hard to understand how by chopping the short bend of bed side (I guess to keep the overloaded bed of the "old-roofing-truck" off the rear axle) it rendered the bed almost useless. Although it was the single-most expensive part of the restoration, I don't regret it a bit. Funny how people at a car show that don't know much about pick-ups will pay the most attention to "the wood". Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Hank you did right using Bruce. We used his floor on Dads 40 plymouth pickup. Usually stop by and chat with him at back to the 50s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanksB3B Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Hank you did right using Bruce. We used his floor on Dads 40 plymouth pickup. Usually stop by and chat with him at back to the 50s. People that nice are few and far between. Ted and Carolyn too! Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desoto1939 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Just to let you know that if you plan to have your truck judged at an AACA event and you do not have the correct wood and alsothe correct color and in this case painted black rough cut then you will have major popibnts deducted on your restoration. Please contact the AACA regarding this major issue if you are going for a true restoration project. Yes the highly urethaned oak looks great as a presentation aspect but it is not correct and most people do not know this. It is all looks that they want and not the correctness that counts. If your truck had been a previous AACA award winner several years ago then you were grandfathered in as being incorrectbut they did not take back the award. Alwasy do your homework if the car or truck is going to be judged. Better to do it now and then be caught at the event and lose becasue you over restored with incorrect material. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48Dodger Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Hey Hank, Might be worth noting that you have a short side bed, where-as most of us have tall side beds. Which means we can't replace the sides with flat steel cuz we haz a pressed pattern. So in affect, you cheated. Oh....and that goes for all you short siders....Reg! 48D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanksB3B Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) Yes you are correct Tim Horkey's Wood & Parts was able to supply a brand new tailgate with the correct dodge script as well as the front bed panel both of which also have a pressed pattern. I've always wondered how or who supplied those. Is there someone who purchased the dies from Chrysler Corp.? I wonder what ever happened to the die to manufacture hubcaps. I have two good wheels with clips (not sure if B3B's had 15" or 16" wheels). I sure would like to have a total of 5 wheels painted Dodge Truck Cream and 4 hubcaps someday. Trouble is there isn't much 50's found in Junk Yards today. Hank Edited January 27, 2011 by HanksB3B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave72dt Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Personally, I'd like to watch the roll put into top of the panels. I know the rest is put through a brake and a press but that tight a roll over that kind of distance has me curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yes you are correct Reg.Horkey's Wood & Parts was able to supply a brand new tailgate with the correct dodge script as well as the front bed panel both of which also have a pressed pattern. I've always wondered how or who supplied those. Is there someone who purchased the dies from Chrysler Corp.? I wonder what ever happened to the die to manufacture hubcaps. I have two good wheels with clips (not sure if B3B's had 15" or 16" wheels). I sure would like to have a total of 5 wheels painted Dodge Truck Cream and 4 hubcaps someday. Trouble is there isn't much 50's found in Junk Yards today. Hank Wheels and caps are around if you watch. Search on ebay but don't put the years in. Be vague. Lots of people have hubcaps and no idea what they fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanksB3B Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Personally, I'd like to watch the roll put into top of the panels. I know the rest is put through a brake and a press but that tight a roll over that kind of distance has me curious. I went to a HVAC ductwork fabricator and he said the same thing. Glen at the shop that cut off the stake pockets explained how they did it and if I remember correctly it had to do with bending it only so far on a brake press and then using some sort of floor-mounted cam to do the final cinch. There must be a been-there-done-that member on the forum. A friend of mine that is a VP of R&D at Mazda is in the process of restoring a Pilothouse and his father worked for Chrysler back in the day. I will ask him if his dad knows next time I talk to him. Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 completing a roll on the end of a part requires some specialty tooling. they are made just like door hinges, generally a two hit process on a press brake w/ a 3 op to finish the roll tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 So what all types of wood will work? Planning on actually using the next truck for some occasional work so I'm thinking regular pine is out. Sounds like yellow pine is ok, red and white oak, and I would think ash is ok too. Anyones I'm missing? This project will be done on the cheap so I'll be at a local lumber yard buying which ever is cheapest probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Coggins Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Mine is hickory, but only because it was free and I was planning to paint it black. It helps to know a cabinet maker that has a stockpile of hickory boards that are "too light" for cabinetry. Merle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Evans Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 I cheated and used 3/4" marine plywood painted black. I'm cheap...I mean frugal.... and wanted to be able to use my truck in my construction business. It's held up well since I installed it in 1998. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Reg did you still use the strips? And a pilot house has steel cross members right? What kind of wood cross members would you use with the plywood? Oh and did you cut it into strips or just install it whole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Evans Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Reg did you still use the strips? And a pilot house has steel cross members right? What kind of wood cross members would you use with the plywood? Oh and did you cut it into strips or just install it whole? Well Young Ed. I did purchase some new bed strips and will be installing them one of these days. Yes, metal cross members. On your older truck with the wooden cross members I'd probably use oak for strength but maybe not being frugal and all. Douglas fir might be just fine. I used the sheet in full. No cutting into individual strips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 So what all types of wood will work? Planning on actually using the next truck for some occasional work so I'm thinking regular pine is out. Sounds like yellow pine is ok, red and white oak, and I would think ash is ok too. Anyones I'm missing? This project will be done on the cheap so I'll be at a local lumber yard buying which ever is cheapest probably. give Youngblood lumber a call. See what they are charging, and ask if a Guild membership discount would apply to what you are looking at. I can go with you and give you my discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Ed Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Thanks I plan to call them. Just trying to narrow down what I want. For what I'm doing I'm thinking the plywood might be the way to go. I'll still need some decent lumber for the cross members. On the 39-47 trucks they are 2x4x48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggdad1951 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 I'd think maybe you could get some white oak from some pallets for the cross members. Heck, I might even have a couple chunks you could have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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