230 swap

[Frank Elder]

Indexing between a crankshaft and a plate weather it is an auto or a manual is a chore.

All my stuff is still together as it was from the factory, but I do remember changing my D-150 from a 4 speed to an auto......I went through a warehouse full of flex plates before the corrrect one was dialed in, the differance between a slant six and 318 plate is a pain.

Welcome to the world of mopar:)

[michael.warshaw]

You need a 230 flywheel for the starter to engage. The holes (4 to 8) will match once you find they right combo, but you still have the starter problem.

so i am confused can i use my 218 flywheel? according to the post above he said i can not use it? when they say right combo what does that mean, i can get a new 230 fly wheel, or should i just use my 218 flywheel, and get a new ring gear?

[dezeldoc]

Michael, what they are saying is; if you use the 218 flywheel it will push it back farther in the bellhousing towards the trans, and away from the starter, and therefore will not engage it. you would need to machine the starter pad on the bellhousing like Don did (see post# 22) or you can use the correct 230 flywheel and have no more work to do to make it work. if you can get a 230 flywheel then i would go that way and eliminate any problems.

[RobertKB]

As dezeldoc said, use a 230 flywheel. You said you had access to a new one but a used one is fine if the ring gear is good and the flywheel is resurfaced. Good luck.

[Flatie46]

Reguardless of which flywheel you use, like Don said mock it all up to make sure the starter will engage.

[greg g]

Your technician should be able to access the condition of a ring gear. In many instances, they can be reversed, exposing the unworn teeth to the starter. Also a competent craftsman would suggest that any flywheel should be checked for balance, and condition of the clutch contact area. Based on that some machining might be needed.

[michael.warshaw]

ok so ill get the 230 flywheel, is there anything else i have to do? will the 230 flywheel fit the bellhousing?

[Don Coatney]

Mikey;

Start at the top of this thread and read everything. Take notes as you go. Then do a mock up of the parts you have or the parts you want to use. Then do a second, third, fourth, etc. mock up until you have it right and understand what is required and what all these kind forum members have been telling you. Take measurements of your mock up. Learn from these measurements. Make adjustments from these measurements. All of your questions have been answered in great detail. Any questions you ask from now on will be foolish and redundent. You have been given much more information than most would require to complete this simple job. Do the job and post your successful results.

NO MORE FOOLISH QUESTIONS!

[Jim Yergin]

ok so ill get the 230 flywheel, is there anything else i have to do? will the 230 flywheel fit the bellhousing?

Yes.

Jim Yergin

[michael.warshaw]

Mikey;

Start at the top of this thread and read everything. Take notes as you go. Then do a mock up of the parts you have or the parts you want to use. Then do a second, third, fourth, etc. mock up until you have it right and understand what is required and what all these kind forum members have been telling you. Take measurements of your mock up. Learn from these measurements. Make adjustments from these measurements. All of your questions have been answered in great detail. Any questions you ask from now on will be foolish and redundent. You have been given much more information than most would require to complete this simple job. Do the job and post your successful results.

NO MORE FOOLISH QUESTIONS!

who made you in charge here, didnt know you were the thread mod here? i am unfamilair with this stuff, none of thse questions are foolish!

[Rollie���]

Don always gives sage advice, you should listen to him for once.

Here's an excellent link to click on:

http://www430.pair.com/p15d24/mopar_forum/profile.php?do=addlist&userlist=ignore&u=5598

[greg g]

Back when you origianlly contemplated the swap to 230 internals, most of the items just covered here, were addressed there.

[wayfarerstranger]

Will you folks on this forum ever learn ????

[michael.warshaw]

learn what??? there should be no attitues here just friendly mopar chat, thanks for everyone who helped explain this to me. i think this thread is over now.

[RobertKB]

We all know Michael does not do his own work as he has made that very clear in the past and would rather pay someone else to do it. Whether you agree with that philosophy or not, that is his business. To suggest he do his own mock up several times is what is redundant as well as being antagonistic. If you think his questions foolish or repetetive, don't reply. I see this thread starting to go the way of another in the not too distant past.

[dezeldoc]

I'm getting a big HEAD ache!

[Don Coatney]

We all know Michael does not do his own work as he has made that very clear in the past and would rather pay someone else to do it. Whether you agree with that philosophy or not, that is his business. To suggest he do his own mock up several times is what is redundant as well as being antagonistic. If you think his questions foolish or repetetive, don't reply. I see this thread starting to go the way of another in the not too distant past.

Robertkb;

You are a genius! I never realized just what genius you are and what a fool I was until you made this posting. Thanks! I wasted all my time being redundant, mocking up my parts numerous times when building my car, to make sure everything would work for final assembly. I should have ask you what to do first and saved all my foolish mock up exercises. What do you suggest Mike does next as doing a mock up not an option. As you did not like my suggestion I must assume you have a better one. Please post it for all forum members to learn from.

I have done my best to share what I learned and I have openly shared this information many times when the same questions have been asked over and over. I have not seen ANY answers from you in regards to this issue so why are you attacking me?

[Plymouthy Adams]

Don, oft times one must step back from the forum and realize that there are always doers and dreamers. Combine that with wanna-be's who read a post here, a post there, think they got all the answers. As to why you are oft times critized for being concise and frank in your post as they are factual and well documcented with photographs, well, I am at a loss for speculation much less a precise answer. I have read these attacks and yes it almost seems as there may be a personal vendetta in some entries. I would like to apologize on their behalf it I thought it would do any good...their comments are doing nothing to benefit the board..and as many times as it is written you should use the ignore feature..which I do by the way and it does work well..and those that recommend its use has not heeded their own advise..so please everyone, for the sanity of all, if the comments are not of construtive nature or beneficial to the forum at large..hit ignore...I care not to read it but I also would not want to make my ignore list longer than the open fourm membership because it cannot be civil..

thank you...

[JoelOkie]

Anyone looking at my post might decide I don't ask a lot of questions, thus am probably not doing much work to my cars. The reason I don't ask a lot of questions is that with a few exceptions dang near everything you can possibly think of, and/or encounter has been asked, and answered, and can be found with just a very minimal amount of effort. This guy is wanting attention more than information in my opinion. I like the way he decides the thread should end now, as if he has sole discretion about that. What a waste of time. Joel

[michael.warshaw]

as the person who started the thread i can be the one to end it, another pointless comment. GOOD JOB

Edited May 18, 2010 by michael.warshaw

[Captain Neon]

I've got an economics question! If it is more cost effective to have some one else do the work, even really simple stuff like change oil, because one's time is too valuable. What activities w/ an old car are worth doing oneself rather than paying some one else to do it?

[michael.warshaw]

9 to 5 i need to make a living to support myself as i would imagine the rest of the folks here need to do as long as there not retired, but on the weekend driving an old car is fun, when you have no where to go. thats why i have a twin turbo bmw to get me to work on time mon through friday.

[greg g]

Can I apply for the open cheaufeur position weekends only?????

[Captain Neon]

So do you change your own oil, wash, detail, and wax? I can't imagine hiring those things done, even on my daily drivers.

[mackster]

I though this post was close? HA HA HA! another empty broken thread. live. learn. get your answers from the one who does your work!