DollyDodge Posted March 9, 2010 Report Posted March 9, 2010 On my 1949 ton and a half pilot house the block drain is stripped. I have tried multiple ways to get it open or out, and I can get it to move. Anybody have suggestions on how to remove it. it is between the oil filer tube and the distributor. It isn't easy to get a hold of even when I take the oil filler tube off. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted March 9, 2010 Report Posted March 9, 2010 Take the whole assembly out with a 9/16" wrench-then put a new one in from a good auto parts store. Bob Quote
John-T-53 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Posted March 9, 2010 I replaced the petcock type drain with a solid brass plug for a similar reason. It never worked good because chunks of scale and rust from the water jacket always got stuck in the petcock's narrow opening. Quote
DollyDodge Posted March 9, 2010 Author Report Posted March 9, 2010 I should have been more clear. The petcock is destroyed. Someone in the past must have had trouble with it. The little wings are gone, the bolt is completly round. I have tried a couple of things to get a good grip on it to un srew it, but it won't budge. I soaked it with Mystrey Oil for several weeks and I still can't get it to move. Quote
John-T-53 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Posted March 9, 2010 In that case, use vise grips or a pipe wrench. To make room, you may need to swing the distributor so its vacuum advance is out of the way. You might also need to heat the old petcock up with a torch and give it some taps with a hammer to get it loose. Quote
HanksB3B Posted March 9, 2010 Report Posted March 9, 2010 I've never faced this problem Potentially couldn't using a vise grip and a lever or tapping crack the block? I mean cast iron is brittle. Wouldn't grinding flush and then progressive size drilling and using an ez-out until whats left can be carefully ice-picked out and cleaned up? I know this would take a lot longer. Hank Quote
Merle Coggins Posted March 10, 2010 Report Posted March 10, 2010 If it were mine I'd use my bolt extractor sockets. I believe these tools are invaluable for rounded fasteners. They're kind of like the reverse of an EZ-out. Quote
Dave72dt Posted March 10, 2010 Report Posted March 10, 2010 You can grind some new flats on the nut to give a vise grips a better purchase on the nut being careful of the spots you choose to grind so the vise grips have maximum swing. Tapping on it before trying to turn it will help. You can tap pretty hard, just don't pound on it and keep the repetitions down to just a few. E-Z Outs is a brand name for screw extractors. I don't believe there is such a thing as easy outs for broken bolts. LOL Quote
DollyDodge Posted March 10, 2010 Author Report Posted March 10, 2010 Thanks for all the input. I tried the pipe wrench and vice grip appoach but couldn't get the thing to move. It is really stuck. If I can find the extractor sockets like you have Merle I might give that a go. I haven't seen those before. If that doesn't work I will try drilling it out. I have seen the stud remover tools too, I might give one of those a go. About all that is left of the pedcock is a roundrd off stud. One of the challenges I have is the truck isn't located near any electricity. I may haul my welder generator to where it is and try grinding some new flat surfaces on it too. Quote
MBF Posted March 10, 2010 Report Posted March 10, 2010 Try a little tougher penetrating oil (Kroil or PB Blaster). Maybe the previous owner used a thread fastener or sealer the last time it was put in. I just took mine out for a block flush while I had the head off-and used neverseize on it when I put it back in. You're right-it is in a damn awkward location but you'll be surprised what comes out of the block once you get it out. Talk about a colon cleanse! Mike Quote
Jim Gaspard Posted March 10, 2010 Report Posted March 10, 2010 I have seen the larger size extractor sets at Harbour and Sears. $20 bucks. This is the same extractor kit I used to remove the frozen door lock set-screw. Tempered steel and they really take a good bite for the torquing. Good luck. Quote
Fernando Mendes Posted March 11, 2010 Report Posted March 11, 2010 Merle, can you show me with pic all this set BOLT EXTRACTOR SOCKETS you have.I never saw none knew one tool like this here.I had this same problem with my draincock block of my GMC truck.Regards. Quote
Mike@DRH Posted March 11, 2010 Report Posted March 11, 2010 The sockets Merle has shown in his post are the most valuable tool when it comes to this type of extraction. We use them all the time, that and reverse twist drill bits if you can't get on it with the socket. Quote
Young Ed Posted March 11, 2010 Report Posted March 11, 2010 Fernando if it helps any I believe the ones we have are Irwin brand. I think its a set of 5. Quote
DollyDodge Posted March 11, 2010 Author Report Posted March 11, 2010 I found a set of 9 IRwin extractor sockets on amazon for $64. I need to add that to my list of needed tools Quote
oldmopar Posted March 11, 2010 Report Posted March 11, 2010 The bolt sets shown in the photo are also sold by sears so you may want to check their prices also. Have you tried getting at from underneath the truck you may have more room to work. Other thought although I have not tried it there is a freeze spray that is supposed to loosen parts same idea as a torch but maybe safer to use in the space you are working in. Quote
Merle Coggins Posted March 11, 2010 Report Posted March 11, 2010 I believe the set I have came from MAC Tools. The image I posted came from this site. http://www.irwin.com/irwin/consumer/jhtml/browse.jhtml?catId=IrwinCat100511 I just did a search for Bolt Extractor and found this Irwin site. I have heads that Sears/Craftsman has them as well. Merle Quote
Jim Gaspard Posted March 12, 2010 Report Posted March 12, 2010 This is the Craftsman extraction set for smaller size bolts. It was around $19 as I recall. Quote
DollyDodge Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Posted March 12, 2010 I ordered some of the freeze spray (no on locally seemed to have it or have heard of it). I will also order a extractor set. Sears sells several ones other than the 9 piece shown below Quote
Allen I. Posted March 13, 2010 Report Posted March 13, 2010 Those extractors have saved me countless hours of chiseling, banging, drilling and bloody knuckles. Only had to move to the breaker bar once. Found mine at a garage sale. Set of 9 (one was missing) for $5. Quote
DollyDodge Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Posted March 14, 2010 Never thought of dry ice either, but it makes sense Quote
buds truck Posted March 14, 2010 Report Posted March 14, 2010 if you take a can of computer keyboard cleaner and spray it upside down it also shoots out a freezing spray. Quote
DollyDodge Posted March 15, 2010 Author Report Posted March 15, 2010 cool, thanks for the computer spray idea Quote
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