why are some oil housings black, and some orange?

[michael.warshaw]

going to make my car a origanal driver.

[BobT-47P15]

Frank Mitchell, eby seller of N O S Chrysler product stuff, has an ad on this item....

says for the P15 model as well as others..........

To his ad: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1930s-1940s-1950s-NOS-MoPar-Plymouth-Dodge-Oil-FILTER_W0QQitemZ360186015179QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item53dcc26dcb&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

Mr Mitchell is also selling this filter decal......

To ad: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1930s-1940s-1950s-MoPar-Oil-Filter-DECAL-Plymouth-Dodge_W0QQitemZ350029509669QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item517f627425&_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116

[rolliejoe]

Michael,

Here's a picture of a nice decal that will compliment whatever filter you go with:

[Don Coatney]

Michael,

Here's a picture of a nice decal that will compliment whatever filter you go with:

I have one just like that on my oil filter.

[Dennis Hemingway]

I already posted this in one of your other threads, but here it is again. Please read it. It will answer your color questions.

Dennis

http://www40.addr.com/~merc583/mopar...eframeset.html

[greg g]

instigators...........

[HalfdollarMayflower]

154 posts in a month!?!?! I've barely got that many in 2 years. That must be a record!

[michael.warshaw]

appreciate it

[BobT-47P15]

I've used that "full flow" sticker - but it's not correct for the average

filter. Don's IS full flow, so is right.

I just figure it this way = looks better than no sticker, and the average

guy doesn't know it's not correct. If I get a more correct one, will use

it.

[greg g]

And apparently the POC judges don't know the difference either (yes I'm and instigator too)

[Dodgeb4ya]

Maybe we should go into depth on how to change and carefully clean the oil filter housings properly too-- and of course for each different style of filter canister !

Bob

[BobT-47P15]

Are there any POC judges here? Ed?

I thought there might be a list of proper colored items to be found on

an old Plym flathead....

Like, what color oil filter? What color for draft tube? What for oil fill tube?

Etc, ad nauseum.

Any such info available?

As you know, my engine is all silver and black. Cause I like it, and it's mostly correct.

Edited September 21, 2009 by BobT-47P15

[mackster]

154 posts in a month!?!?! I've barely got that many in 2 years. That must be a record!

You can get alot of posts by just using questions that will only take an adult a few mins of personal research on their own. Also, you can make all your posts up to (but not limited to) one sentence. and then when your question is answered, moved on the next non-sense question or just an odd comment like yeah, sure im going to look into that. I have decided to ignore most posting on certain individuals that just irritate me!

I dont know if my sarcasm is deep enough to be read in this post....but it is just annoying.

[Dennis Hemingway]

You can go here and on page 19 you can see the required colors for under the hood for a P-15. This is the Plymouth Owners Judging Guide.

Dennis:rolleyes:

http://plymouthbulletin.com/Judging/Group2RevA%201-1-08.pdf

[Young Ed]

Are there any POC judges here? Ed?

I thought there might be a list of proper colored items to be found on

an old Plym flathead....

Like, what color oil filter? What color for draft tube? What for oil fill tube?

Etc, ad nauseum.

Any such info available?

As you know, my engine is all silver and black. Cause I like it, and it's mostly correct.

Dennis already listed the official list. However I would think on the oil filter thing any basic colors would be accepted. Period accessories are allowed and are actually listed on one of the judging sheets. I believe you get up to 5 points for them. So if you didn't have the mopar oil filter you could just list it as an accessory. BTW reading up above it kinda sounded like people were saying Mopar only made the disposable kind but I believe they did offer both. They were kind of a cream color with a red top.

[TodFitch]

...snip... Period accessories are allowed and are actually listed on one of the judging sheets. I believe you get up to 5 points for them. So if you didn't have the mopar oil filter you could just list it as an accessory. ...snip...

Depends on the club. Plymouth Owners Club encourages period accessories including aftermarket accessories, in good condition, by giving you points. AACA will automatically deduct points for aftermarket accessories because "it could not have come from the factory that way". If you are into judged car shows look into the rules of the organization doing the judging and then make your decisions.

...snip... BTW reading up above it kinda sounded like people were saying Mopar only made the disposable kind but I believe they did offer both. They were kind of a cream color with a red top.

Depends on the year, but the parts book shows three different filters: "Cleanable", "Non-Cleanable" and "Deluxe Heavy Duty". For P15 they list two filters but then in the element notes they list two more "filter kits". So it looks like the factory had something like four different oil filters available. And, of course, there were aftermarket kits too.

The four filters listed for P15:

"Non-cleanable" - 861028. This is the throwaway canister, equivalent to the obsolete WIX 50135. I have an original in the box 861028 and it has a reddish top with cream body.

"Deluxe Heavy Duty" - 677534. This uses a filter element number 676575 which crosses to WIX 51011 or NAPA 1011.

P15 (with 861029 kit) uses filter element part number 861027.

P15 (with 1123152 filter kit) uses filter element part number 1121694 (which crosses to a NAPA 1080).

I have a NOS 1123152 in the original box for use when I run out of the disposable canisters. Like the 861028 disposable filter, it has a red top cover and a cream body. I can't say for sure what colors the other factory available oil filters were.

[Captain Neon]

You can get alot of posts by just using questions that will only take an adult a few mins of personal research on their own. Also, you can make all your posts up to (but not limited to) one sentence. and then when your question is answered, moved on the next non-sense question or just an odd comment like yeah, sure im going to look into that. I have decided to ignore most posting on certain individuals that just irritate me!

I dont know if my sarcasm is deep enough to be read in this post....but it is just annoying.

Lots of time to ask questions when all one is doing is writing checques.

[michael.warshaw]

thanks to everyone who answered my questions, and tried to help me.

[DutchEdwin]

I do not know for you guy's but first I love my engine like I love my wife. So she gets what's best for her (is an engine a she?).

While doing my engine, I changed to a modern filter setup. So now I'm sure that when I start up the cold engine there is oil in the oil lines i the engine to get the plain bearings lubricated.

The old filter setup tends to bleed the oil while the engine is in rest.

[Captain Neon]

I do not know for you guy's but first I love my engine like I love my wife. So she gets what's best for her (is an engine a she?).

While doing my engine, I changed to a modern filter setup. So now I'm sure that when I start up the cold engine there is oil in the oil lines i the engine to get the plain bearings lubricated.

The old filter setup tends to bleed the oil while the engine is in rest.

I usually advocate for what you have done if one is considering the switch from disposable (currently not being produced) oil filters. When the replaceable drop-in filters for my car are not readily available or too expensive, I intend to do like-wise. However, Michael is enamoured with making his car 100% like it came from the factory, and seems willing to pay the extra money to have some one else do it for him. He has a good serviceable Fram oil filter unit, but wants an oil filter as available from the MoPar parts catalogue. It appears from his minimalistic responses that he is even considering going with the expensive throw-away units in favour of his already installed Fram cleanable unit simply because it isn't "oem".

At the same time, he is interested in fender skirts, quarter panel chrome strips, gravel shields, and chrome wheel disks that were after-market accessories or borrowed from Chrysler or DeSoto and never originally intended to be put on a P15 coupe. The only thing that seems consistent in Michael's pursuit is whatever costs more short-term and long-term is his preferred route.

[BobT-47P15]

Transferring info from POC page ..........on paint colors in engine bay

Engine Compartment

Ignition coil has “Solar Spark” decal on it, red lettering

SILVER

Engine block, oil pan, head, water pump, oil pump, front engine mounts, manifolds, clutch housing,

transmission, oil filler pipe, dipstick tube, front pulley, thermostat housing.

BLACK

Starter, generator, distributor, wire loom holder, coil holder, coil, air breather, breather brace, valve

chamber vent & tube, fuel pump shield, fan & pulley, oil filter, filter bracket, steering box.

UNPAINTED

Fuel pump, carbureator, fuel lines, oil & vacuum lines, accelerator linkage, shift rods.

Edited September 21, 2009 by BobT-47P15

[Rollie���]

My original '51 came with the throw away filter. I have a canister off a '53 motor that has that great looking cream color base/red top (that has fade and rust). Has anyone found paint that would be a close match to that scheme?

[Rollie���]

do the POC list the correct overall colors for a '51? They seem somewhat different than compared to a P-15. I could list my "archeological" finds on the P-23.

[Plymouthy Adams]

you can take a stab at the Auto Color Library website and view the actual paint chip chart for year and model...be sure to look at most of the second and consecutive pages as this is where interior color, late year changes and two tone configurations wiere listed..

though the original numbers are listed getting the formula today as then is hard even for the parent company...you will instead get crossed colors that are very much as original..but face it the ingredients are changed, the rosins are different now and then...I have been to DuPont/PPG(ditzler) and others and talked to the factory people and they cannot get the old colors 100%...the local seller says they can but what they get is the crossed link color and not inform you of that..call the factory rep for the real answer..remember the guy at the counter needs to SELL paint to get a pay check....I have made the calls..this is their answer to me every time for paints that are in the 50 and earlier..