48 Windsor fuel pump - overhaul kit?

[Chris-R]

I've removed the fuel pump from my 48 Windsor and started taking it apart. I can't go any further yet as all my smallest spanners are metric, but Amazon is hopefully sorting that for me tomorrow. 

So far I've been impressed by the crud that's collected in the bowl and housing - it has a dry papery feel, and its grey, almost like flakey paint. Maybe that's normal when a car has been standing for 15 years plus. 

There's no part number I can find on the pump housing, but there's a little aluminium tag under one of the housing bolts that has 588 and 1M1 stamped on it. I'll be ordering from the UK and I don't want to get the wrong one... but would this do it?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174144967093?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item288bd951b5:g:ysYAAOSwWcRa330t&amdata=enc%3AAQAGAAACsPYe5NmHp%2B2JMhMi7yxGiTJkPrKr5t53CooMSQt2orsSDAeS9EQtjPGVfKXTxF0%2Bjvy5WbigHn%2FuSK979DhciWWdzttZsOLZFghZmc2NDzz9frdi19WHHoEn1zGrI4hF1N9tVduDRlKZKBGGZC0fWfKGq%2FrLCkIXV3HuZZ%2FvJajFO3gTv6IAn%2FZc5Tr1PtJKCWrVl4EYMAk2mFdx2e3DJrICDLZmkv2WEmH1kCKSpg9%2BKd%2FXI1zx2ZbipjP4Bv9HnfKB6JCd3p0PC3VHjJwZuW9UJevV5SZ1VaJLuwT5X%2B%2BJEOXtOS3Eii87D5w%2FH7rK5Uiy%2BssDElhxECFGNKbDQJ3sVkFZAM3fjRLKxkdr86SUFx32Mq%2FCIAfpzZgS3PDfOCF6QpAnU3VPMV%2FS49bbA95zzW8Q2ZW9ZpOssUnKab8q8%2BdyKdd6w1CLB3eJqgho%2BZvkmpRKC4Z4Oo%2By%2FE298byn4Ye0TSRAc2M3%2BpgSpISRIOq3xHMJxit2hxILY90%2FQ4z%2B8IldgbFMxDoiO6oXXxBOKv0hxY0aAa8Bt43Jc8%2BXLbGVUfysbaE5uLZKNaWpWIz8ktEGP8ZYcWHRBZNptnWWAcYtUUd4XTFUvkEbPNPlJAXUkwefJDAvoebj2Gx8XBchaRh0reL0FZB8TWAxGicXf2ni0QidVjICJ2JwwUy2Rg0c0mh3EtT2B18D%2BmQZCUS45efhO7kSwLWENpROD81jP1LzYRNIjO1SIwbKoRg%2Bc3tlWE5gzO4jxRds8dVcLmE3ubaDpBsxhnOEGjHOau8zvScKnVbhC4CWCfBkWX7Zfrsg9%2FJaBG0BmXqjN3RZQ3vQPsRW%2B6zIlw4xVZ7Mzfi8d8v1HmsPSqxjOjer3A3y%2FmkclMq4X3DcoK4k7J9HgbIFIc6oeN6yw0OR0lVkNLc%3D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2334524

TIA

Edited June 12, 2021 by Chris-R

[plymouthcranbrook]

You might contact these folks as they are very knowledgeable in this area.  I am sure others here will have suggestions as well.

 

 

https://www.then-now-auto.com/

[keithb7]

Have a look at the check valves. Look at how they are mounted. Note their parts. Do the valves retain properly?

[Sniper]

A helpful hint in regards to huge URLs.

 

www.tinyurl.com turns your monstrosity link into this  https://tinyurl.com/kd7mfpwd

 

As for which kit you need, I'd be talking to a vendor that knows these things rather than looking on Ebay, especially if you are overseas and having to deal with all that hassle if there is an issue.  Having said that the seller of your Ebay kit is a known vendor that deals with our vehicles and ought to be able to answer your questions.  Which is probably more helpful in case of any issues.

 

 

[allbizz49]

I've ordered quite a few parts from mopar pro. Nothing but top tonch stuff so far. I wouldn't hesitate to order his rebuild kit.

[DJ194950]

Check this other eBay add for similar but it does spec that it fits the #588 as does your tag. Priced close to the other Ebay add and if I remember correctly the then and now people are close to the same. It has been a while since I have checked their prices however.

 

The other suggestions I believe are right on also.

 

DJ

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/384197295930?epid=8028606051&hash=item5973f17

[desoto1939]

the 588 tag is the model of the pump.. AC was a major supplier of FP and the metal tag tells you that it is a model 588  these were used up in to the 50-60 and are also used on inductrail engines such a tree chippers.

 

So if you go into a good quality parts store just ask for a 588 fuel ump.  the 588 also fits my 1939 Desoto.

 

If they ask for a year tell them 1948 desoto 6.

 

Rich Hartung

desoto1939@aol.com

[Dodgeb4ya]

Note that  Moparnopro's ad shows that pivot pin that always seems to fall out of the fuel pump at the worst times....

[Art Bailey]

Then and Now has a helpful reassembly video: 

I had no idea that you were supposed to assemble the body with the lever held down, and then couldn't figure out why it wouldn't pump.

You may know this already, but be careful putting teflon tape on the threaded fuel line nipples upon reassembly. If you overtighten, you can easily split the casting. 

Edited June 13, 2021 by ratbailey

[chrysler1941]

11 hours ago, ratbailey said:

I had no idea that you were supposed to assemble the body with the lever held down, and then couldn't figure out why it wouldn't pump.

You may know this already, but be careful putting teflon tape on the threaded fuel line nipples upon reassembly. If you overtighten, you can easily split the casting. 

 Remember also to use power tools for small screws, vice with no protection, an huge clumsy screwdriver and adjustable wrench. 

[Chris-R]

Thanks all - confirming that 588 is the pump model was key info I needed.

I'm have a little trouble releasing the diaphragm from the pump. My manual says the central rod 'unhooks', but it appears to be illustrating an older type of pump. The video linked above in this thread suggest a 90 degree twist, but that doesn't seem to work for me either... anyone got a pro tip? I'm reluctant to start disassembling the pump from the lever side unless absolutely necessary - all those fiddly bits!

 

[Art Bailey]

4 hours ago, Chris-R said:

Thanks all - confirming that 588 is the pump model was key info I needed.

I'm have a little trouble releasing the diaphragm from the pump. My manual says the central rod 'unhooks', but it appears to be illustrating an older type of pump. The video linked above in this thread suggest a 90 degree twist, but that doesn't seem to work for me either... anyone got a pro tip? I'm reluctant to start disassembling the pump from the lever side unless absolutely necessary - all those fiddly bits!

 

It's kind of a party trick, like doing a Rubik's Cube behind your back. Maybe not that hard, but you just need to fiddle with it, and you'll finally figure out the combination. I was this close to chucking it across the room, when I finally got it to pop loose. It helps to visualize the hook sitting in the slot in the rod. When you get it out, you'll see that the rod has a long, oval shaped hole, so kind of push up on the rod, and move it away from the lever. Remove the lever spring before you attempt this, if you haven't already. Take heart, reassembly sucks even worse. ?

Edited June 15, 2021 by ratbailey

[Chris-R]

2 hours ago, ratbailey said:

It's kind of a party trick, like doing a Rubik's Cube behind your back. Maybe not that hard, but you just need to fiddle with it, and you'll finally figure out the combination. I was this close to chucking it across the room, when I finally got it to pop loose. It helps to visualize the hook sitting in the slot in the rod. When you get it out, you'll see that the rod has a long, oval shaped hole, so kind of push up on the rod, and move it away from the lever. Remove the lever spring before you attempt this, if you haven't already. Take heart, reassembly sucks even worse. ?

? ?   I think I did throw my Rubik's Cube across the room....