SteveR Posted September 16, 2019 Report Posted September 16, 2019 I have a 1937 Plymouth Deluxe 6. I have owned it now for 1 year. I noticed between the radiator and front grill a horn loose. I eventually got it out and appears to be a klaxon type. Currently I have a modern horn to pass the testing here in England. I am wondering what type horn was used in my 1937 Plymouth. Also is there a repair manual. The diaphragm looks bent in 2 directions. Thank guys! Quote
Frank Elder Posted September 16, 2019 Report Posted September 16, 2019 http://www.faxonautoliterature.com/1937-Plymouth-Repair-Shop-Manual-Reprint-P21849.aspx 1 Quote
Tom Skinner Posted September 16, 2019 Report Posted September 16, 2019 I'm on board with that. Service Manuals. What a concept. True dat. Quote
SteveR Posted September 17, 2019 Author Report Posted September 17, 2019 I have the service manual for the Plymouth 1926-41. There is no mention of the horn in there except for the wiring. Will the above manual tell me what horn is suppose to be in my car? Quote
SteveR Posted September 17, 2019 Author Report Posted September 17, 2019 Sorry that 1936-41 Plymouth Quote
Andydodge Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 Steve......my oz built 1940 Dodge is Plymouth based and the horn shown in this pic is the original trumpet part, at least the chromed part shown is but I fitted up another horn back, I think a Lucas 12 volt one to the original trumpet......I've had the car since 1971 and that was the original horn trumpet when purchased by me back then......is it similar to the "klaxon" one you refer to tho' the actual horn mechanism is different to that shown............make sense?...............andyd Quote
SteveR Posted September 17, 2019 Author Report Posted September 17, 2019 Thank Andy that helps. Could you tell me if the workings are a solenoid with a metal diaphragm for the sound. Nice engine! Do you have a Picture of the rest of your car? Quote
Andydodge Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 Steve.....havn't a clue how the horn works.........lol...........it was from an English car I think, but it was 40 odd yrs ago........the cars been basically like this pic since the mid 70's, I bought it in 1971, installed the 318 Poly, auto, discs etc in the early/mid 70's .......have attached a couple of pics.........sorry can't help much re the horn............I think its whatever the 50's/60's morris/austins had.......I think.........lol........but I ended up replacing it a couple of yrs ago as the chrome job was never very good and the bracket I made was supposed to have a pair of horns but I didn't find another trumpet the same, nor did I look too hard and I ended up just getting an aftermarket horn and mounting it behind the grille.....this engine pic is how it looks now...........andyd Quote
SteveR Posted September 17, 2019 Author Report Posted September 17, 2019 Thanks Andy, I love the look of your car! You really did a good job. It all seems to tie in together, old + new. Some old cars are done up so modern it detracts from the car. Course that's my opinion. The only problem I can see is the steering is on the wrong side. LOL Thanks for your help. Steve Quote
Frank Elder Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 https://www.amazon.com/PLYMOUTH-MASTER-PARTS-CATALOG-Thrift/dp/B00I9LW1I6 https://www.moparmall.com/Illustrated-MoPar-Parts-Digest-for-1937-1951-Plymo-p/840-205.htm http://www.faxonautoliterature.com/1937-Plymouth-Parts-Book-Original-P19966.aspx Quote
SteveR Posted October 29, 2019 Author Report Posted October 29, 2019 An update. I have removed the horn and adjusted it. I am sure the neighbors were very happy with me as it took some time in adjusting and trying it and and trying it for about 1/2 hour. I then was under the car jacking it up to clean the grease from the brakes (my seal is gone and the only place I can get one is in the US). I noticed some holes in the cross member and lo and behold 2 of them line up with my horn. You can actually see the outline of where the bracket went. I guess I can safety say this horn is the original. The next question, which I probably never know is, why did someone unbolt the horn and leave it loose? Thanks for all you guys help. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 29, 2019 Report Posted October 29, 2019 Why not bolted back in place...unlike your neighbors...his may have shot him for the noise when adjusting and buried the body somewhere....what amperage did you tune your horn to... Quote
casper50 Posted October 29, 2019 Report Posted October 29, 2019 You could always put in either of these horns. lol Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 29, 2019 Report Posted October 29, 2019 that poor car never did anything to deserve that... 1 Quote
LazyK Posted October 29, 2019 Report Posted October 29, 2019 55 minutes ago, casper50 said: You could always put in either of these horns. lol that is wrong on so many levels Quote
casper50 Posted October 30, 2019 Report Posted October 30, 2019 truer words have never been spoken. It's for sale up here in Alaska. lol Quote
Andydodge Posted October 30, 2019 Report Posted October 30, 2019 That Buick is the true meaning of a POS.............barf!.........lol..........andyd Quote
John Reddie Posted October 30, 2019 Report Posted October 30, 2019 16 hours ago, casper50 said: You could always put in either of these horns. lol When you own a car like this one, you cannot do anything wrong when driving. It's got to be the only one like it on the planet. John R Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 30, 2019 Report Posted October 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, John Reddie said: When you own a car like this one, you cannot do anything wrong when driving. It's got to be the only one like it on the planet. John R and that is the only good thing about his car...…. 1 Quote
keithb7 Posted October 30, 2019 Report Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) The P6 had a single diaphragm horn. It has a long-ish snout on it. As an option you could order the car with dual hi/low tone horns. My '38 P6 has one horn mounted on the firewall in front of the driver. I would like to upgrade my horn to the duals. My single horn pretty boring sounding, however was stock. Duals would be nice if I can find a set. I quite like the sound of the electric Klaxon aah-oo=gah horns, however are not necessarily period correct in 1938. Edited October 30, 2019 by keithb7 Quote
Rosco Posted October 30, 2019 Report Posted October 30, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 9:04 AM, Andydodge said: Steve.....havn't a clue how the horn works.........lol...........it was from an English car I think, but it was 40 odd yrs ago........the cars been basically like this pic since the mid 70's, I bought it in 1971, installed the 318 Poly, auto, discs etc in the early/mid 70's .......have attached a couple of pics.........sorry can't help much re the horn............I think its whatever the 50's/60's morris/austins had.......I think.........lol........but I ended up replacing it a couple of yrs ago as the chrome job was never very good and the bracket I made was supposed to have a pair of horns but I didn't find another trumpet the same, nor did I look too hard and I ended up just getting an aftermarket horn and mounting it behind the grille.....this engine pic is how it looks now...........andyd Andy - every time I see photos of your Dodge, I get very envious! Lol! Love the look of that car. I had a ‘40 Plymouth ( very similar) many years ago - wish I had kept it! Still like my ‘50, though. - Rosco Quote
Andydodge Posted October 30, 2019 Report Posted October 30, 2019 Keith.......that P6 horn appears to be the same horn that my 1940 Dodge had, but I removed the 6volt "horn" part and bolted a 12 volt British horn onto the trumpet.......I replaced it 4-5 yrs ago with a small aftermarket one behind the grille..........andyd Quote
soth122003 Posted October 31, 2019 Report Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/29/2019 at 10:04 PM, casper50 said: truer words have never been spoken. It's for sale up here in Alaska. lol If some one buys it and drives it through the south, ALA, GA, TENN., It will be on some rednecks wall with the story... There I wuz on my furth beer, and it came chargin rite at me.... Joe Lee Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 31, 2019 Report Posted October 31, 2019 If it left Alaska and made it to the south without being bagged and tagged it would be a miracle.....but yes....it should be put out of its misery....its only humane thing to do....its a ratter for sure... Quote
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