Need to lower my fan.

[Tim Van Pelt]

In building my single seat car using a 230 I need to lower the fan. Was there a double groove pulley and a fan carrier ever produced for a special application? Or has anyone ever done such a modification.

[Plymouthy Adams]

 the fan is part of the water pump and it's configuration is pretty much set in stone.  Setting the fan lower or offset to the side and building a pulley and mounting system for the application you speak of I have never seen but one that you could do if so inclined and truly need to.  Sounds like an interesting situation, and yes, I understand the reason to doing it this way...an electric fan would be so out of place and not match the build era.

[greg g]

Honda radiator, Honda fan with shroud.  Know its not the look you are going for, but would get you going.  Mount it front side and out of sight.  That thing will be fast enough you won't need a fan...

[dpollo]

If additional engine length is not an issue, the 57 58 and 59 Plymouth and Dodge  6 cylinder engine used an adapter and 

pump which significantly lowered the pump and fan blades..

[greg g]

Like this one?

 

[Plymouthy Adams]

I can see why this was such as the trend to lower hood lines was the prevailing styling trend...surprised they did not return to updraft carbs...

[Tim Van Pelt]

2 hours ago, greg g said:

Like this one?

 

That is exactly what I need. The motor I have is a 1959 230 out of a cube van. So what is that waterpump?

[greg g]

Must be the 59 Dodge and Plymouth cars to accommodate the lower hoods. Maybe 57/58 also.  My 56 engine pump fan is in the same position you engine has.  Hood line wasn't a factor on trucks, vans etc.

[Plymouthy Adams]

the trend to lowering the hood line was started with the 53 model...as for trucks and van applications...yes it is not needed, but across the board, the cost to produce two different setups was usually something Chrysler avoided

[Tim Van Pelt]

So I,m new to this mopar flat six thing. Can I go to my local NAPA store and find a waterpump?

[greg g]

You might want to call Cardone and see if the remanufacture for 59 specifically.  If the do than any parts place should be able to order one up.  Also give Vintage Power Wagons a call, they might have some one with knowledge specific to that style.

[Tim Van Pelt]

I'm striking out finding a late 50's 230 car water pump. My local napa doesnt have them, Andy Bernbaum says theres not enough demand for them for him to sell them. Any other options anyone can help me with?

[Don Coatney]

This might or might not help.

 

[dpollo]

You will need the adapter casting  57 to 59 passenger car, as well as the crankshaft pulley and fan pulley.

Find someone who has the complete setup.  The timing cover 's timing pointer is different too.

 I have all these pieces, but western Canada is a long way to ship anything into the USA  even though I can see into Washington State

from where I live on Vancouver Island.

[Tim Van Pelt]

2 minutes ago, Don Coatney said:

This might or might not help.

 

We do have a car quest here I will have to check there. was this a late 50s pump?

[Tim Van Pelt]

1 minute ago, dpollo said:

You will need the adapter casting  57 to 59 passenger car, as well as the crankshaft pulley and fan pulley.

Find someone who has the complete setup.  The timing cover 's timing pointer is different too.

 I have all these pieces, but western Canada is a long way to ship anything into the USA  even though I can see into Washington State

from where I live on Vancouver Island.

So its not a simple change the waterpump thing I see.

[kencombs]

You might find a connection to that part on this forum:  http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/category-view.asp

[Grdpa's 50 Dodge]

It is my understanding that Car Quest was bought out by Advance.  At least here it was, and Car Quest store is now vacant.

[matt167]

Carquest itself was bought by Advance around 2008. But Carquest independent franchises exist and some of the product lines are different.

[Tim Van Pelt]

14 hours ago, dpollo said:

You will need the adapter casting  57 to 59 passenger car, as well as the crankshaft pulley and fan pulley.

Find someone who has the complete setup.  The timing cover 's timing pointer is different too.

 I have all these pieces, but western Canada is a long way to ship anything into the USA  even though I can see into Washington State

from where I live on Vancouver Island.

Thanks for the info. So am I correct here, I would need 1---59 car  lowered water pump, 2--crank and water pump pulley, 3-- timing pointer?

Edited May 30, 2018 by Tim Van Pelt

[dpollo]

You are correct.  The adapter casting and the pump are two separate pieces.    The timing pointer and the marks on the pulley are in a different location.

[bones44]

Is this what you are looking for? If so send me a PM.

[martybose]

11 hours ago, Tim Van Pelt said:

Thanks for the info. So am I correct here, I would need 1---59 car  lowered water pump, 2--crank and water pump pulley, 3-- timing pointer?

You'll also need a generator pulley to go along with the narrow crank and waterpump pulleys.

 

Marty

[Flatie46]

Might want to check over on The Forward Look forum for these parts. 

[dpollo]

Bones 44 seems to have all that you need except the fan pulley which would not be hard to find (around my place).