Bellhousing details for transmission swaps

[wayfarer]

Ok, now that I have your attention, it appears that there is a lack of a common thread providing information for using something other than the oem trans in either car or truck applications. At present, it appears that some folks could use some basic bellhousing details for their projects so I'll start with the two that I have handy. Feel free to add to the thread with whatever L6 manual bellhousing that you have and give a short narrative.

 

Casting #  871357,    oem application unknown,    no rear mounts,   Nominal  4" ID hole and nominal  7¾" depth.

Casting # 1799592,    truck bell with sloped mounts, has both L6 and V8 block patterns.  Nominal 5" hole and nominal 8-3/16" deep.

Edited August 10, 2017 by wayfarer

[HotRodTractor]

I'll gladly add to this list. I have one bell loose at the moment and two more hanging off engines that need to be removed, plus one still in a chassis. All truck bells and I know at least two or three variants. I might suggest though is some pictures of the bellhousings, perhaps a simple diagram explaining how to measure to ensure that everyone measures identically, and perhaps at least a picture, if not a dimensioned pattern of the existing holes in the back of the bellhousing.

[59bisquik]

Casting # 1688997 57 Passenger car, no rear mounts, 4.115 bore and 9.5" deep

Casting # 15017061 54+ Truck V8 housing with rear mounts. 4.740 bore and 8 5/16" deep.

 

Edited July 19, 2017 by 59bisquik

[wayfarer]

I'll bump this for the weekend crowd.

Remember that Photobucket links are not likely to live very long.

[40desoto]

I have 4 different ones. I'll measure some

this weekend and post

[wayfarer]

I actually thought that more folks would respond to this thread as there is always so much banter when discussing (cussing?) trans swaps. If you have a bellhousing, how about taking a minute and posting some details for the next guy pondering a swap? The info may also prove useful for anyone just searching for bellhousing info for a stock package.

 

Edited August 10, 2017 by wayfarer

[rekbender]

Casting #     871357-6       Early 50's Plymouth?     Rear horizontal mounts    4 1/8" ID Hole    7 3/4" Depth 

Casting #     864588-3       1948 Plymouth?             Rear horizontal mounts     4 1/8" ID Hole      7 3/4" Depth

Casting #     579298-6       1952 Truck?                   Side vertical mounts          4 3/4" ID Hole     7 1/4 Depth

 

 

Edited July 30, 2017 by rekbender
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[medium_jon]

That is certainly a lot of differences between those already posted. Hopefully, this list will continue to grow.

[wayfarer]

...ok, one last bump and then the thread can die.

[Flatie46]

At the moment all my bellhousings have a a trans and engine attached. There may be one At my sons house, I'll check when I can. I think this thread is a good idea whether you go the T-5 route or choose another. Good info to have.

[HotRodTractor]

20 hours ago, wayfarer said:

...ok, one last bump and then the thread can die.

Nah - as soon as I get some free time I'll be adding a few pictures and measurements. Just need some free time to dig some stuff out.

[55 Fargo]

Maybe your 2 "likers" can add some too ............

[Young Ed]

13 minutes ago, 55 Fargo Spitfire said:

Maybe your 2 "likers" can add some too ............

currently all of mine are attached to engines and transmissions. thanks for inquiring though

[HotRodTractor]

1 hour ago, 55 Fargo Spitfire said:

Maybe your 2 "likers" can add some too ............

Technically this information is invaluable for any transmission swap - so feel free to add up pictures and dimensions of your bellhousing as well.

[Don Coatney]

6 hours ago, 55 Fargo Spitfire said:

Maybe your 2 "likers" can add some too ............

I would be glad to but I do not have any bell housings not installed.

[wayfarer]

Yeah, we really need to keep this thread focused on BELLHOUSINGS. There simply is no need for any other discussion that a future searcher would have to wade through. Remember, this is also useful for any other trans swap and/or any oem package that someone may be trying to piece together.

 

Thanks to those who have offered information.

 

[rekbender]

These are 9 year old pictures of my 1936 P2 bellhousing. I didn't take measurements, but maybe the pics will help someone identify another like it in the future. 

Casting #    651252-5         Motor mounts are attached by brackets at the bottom

[HotRodTractor]

3 hours ago, wayfarer said:

Yeah, we really need to keep this thread focused on BELLHOUSINGS. There simply is no need for any other discussion that a future searcher would have to wade through. Remember, this is also useful for any other trans swap and/or any oem package that someone may be trying to piece together.

 

Thanks to those who have offered information.

 

Perhaps a mod can edit the title of the thread to reflect it as a search for bellhousing information so the bias towards a particular swap can be removed.

[Frank Elder]

I've already blocked the salesman for all things TKO, passive aggressive is a mild description.

 

[40desoto]

Cast number 8544414-5     4 1/10" bore,  7 3/4" depth

 

Cast number 871357-6       4 1/10" bore, 7 3/4" depth

 

Edited August 9, 2017 by 40desoto

[40desoto]

On 7/17/2017 at 6:24 PM, wayfarer said:

Ok, now that I have your attention, it appears that there is a lack of a common thread providing information for using the t5 in either car or truck applications. At present, it appears that some folks could use some basic bellhousing details for their projects so I'll start with the two that I have handy. Feel free to add to the thread with whatever L6 manual bellhousing that you have and give a short narrative.

 

Casting #  871357,    oem application unknown,    no rear mounts,   Nominal  4" ID hole and nominal  7¾" depth.

Casting # 1799592,    truck bell with sloped mounts, has both L6 and V8 block patterns.  Nominal 5" hole and nominal 8-3/16" deep.

Wayfarer my 871357 does have rear mounts.   I don't know what application mine came from

[40desoto]

http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/mcerda972/media/1940 Desoto Coupe/FCFF1BBB-DC17-4D17-AD0B-F15F190D16F2_zpsfx9ksdka.jpg.html

[40desoto]

[Merle Coggins]

I hadn't had a chance to dig out the bell housing I have to measure it up, but I just found some pictures I took of it a while back. Probably not all of the measurements that would be needed, but I can always dig it out and remeasure if someone needs it.

It's out of a '51 or '52 B-3-C truck and had a 4 speed attached. It looks like it's drilled for a 3 speed too.

[oldasdirt]

On ‎08‎/‎08‎/‎2017 at 5:42 PM, wayfarer said:

Yeah, we really need to keep this thread focused on BELLHOUSINGS. There simply is no need for any other discussion that a future searcher would have to wade through. Remember, this is also useful for any other trans swap and/or any oem package that someone may be trying to piece together.

 

Thanks to those who have offered information.

 

I have no interest in starting a fight but when you start a thread - "    BW t-5 trans swap; bellhousing details"    and then post you want the thread to be focused on Bellhousing, I would suggest you poisoned the well before you started drilling. Id bet the farm lots wont even bother reading the thread.