Buyers Beware

[wayfarerstranger]

Beware of people on this forum who are selling in the classifieds ,  i had one who i was working with about buying an item for well over a week and then he just decided to screw me over before we could work out the details and sold it out from under me to someone else . That isn`t the way most car people treat each other i have bought and sold truck loads of parts to and from people on here and have never had  this happen before, i always go out of my way to make sure things go smoothly .

Edited January 15, 2017 by wayfarerstranger

[desoto1939]

sad to hear this from a club member. Since we do not know both sides it is hard to comment. Maybe the other person had cash on hand and was willing to pay a premium for the part and was able to pickit up when the offer was made.  But since you were workign with him they should have come back to you so you could counter offer if that was the case.

 

rich Hartung

[DJ194950]

4 hours ago, wayfarerstranger said:

Beware of people on this forum who are selling in the classifieds ,  i

I hope that at least it was someone who just joined this forum to sell his parts and almost/or none - posts besides the Sale items!!

I agree with desoto1939's post.

DJ

[laynrubber]

Well it looks like I need to give my side of the story. I hate confrontation and this is my first ever slander on any forum.

There are indeed 2 sides to any story, anyone interested can sort out their side but I feel the need to defend my decision.

Here is a screen shot of a portion of our conversations.

I asked $40 for a used, sleeved master cylinder. Mr Wayarer inquired about shipping to his zip, the local post office gave me the price and it was $30 regular mail. Mr Wayfarer countered with an offer of $50 total saying the M/C will fit in a $13.45 flat rate box. The post office told me nothing about this shipping method, maybe that is an American shipping style but my Canadian post office told me cheapest to that zip is $30. I told Mr Wayfarer  thank you for the intrest but I have sold it to a fellow closer. He is claiming I pulled the rug out from under him before we could make an agreement.....what was there to agree on ?! I told him the price, he wanted to low ball it....So I sold it to someone else that will pay me what I wanted. Without the hassle of shipping, I can deliver it to his door. The $50 would have been fair IF the shipping was $13.45 but my information said $30 to ship. Now that $50 with the exchange would have been $65.68 Cdn....which is certainly  close to my total required of $70 and truthfully if I had calculated the exchange I would have said....sold Mr Wayfarer, but I didn't. This is assuming his method of payment would have been in American funds (I have sold stuff south of the 49th and they have payed in Cdn funds)

So now he feels screwed over and I feel bad and we chew up band width for this.

 

Edited January 16, 2017 by laynrubber

[Dodgeb4ya]

The seller I think has all the control of a sale. He calls the shots as what I have learned.

I too lost trying to get a better deal. Oh well.

[Plymouthy Adams]

Not taking sides, and as in many ads I have replied to ask folks to list their actual location when posting an item. Location location location...more than one deal has gone south because one or the other did not understand the physical location of the item at the time.  Your posted location is a city only and does not suggest Canada which anyone would then know of shipping differences.  Flat rate would not apply here but even when I read the ad couple days ago I had no clue the item was across the border.

[laynrubber]

Plymouth Adams, that is a good point. I should have added my location, there may have been a misunderstanding about that. Google can be readily available to anyone though but I will change my profile location.

[desoto1939]

when the gentleman informed the buyer in the US that the item was located in Canada then the buyer need to know that they do not have the IF IT FITS IT SHIPs option. This is a US Postal option.  So when the buyer would not accept the shipping fees and another gentleman then offered the asking price and the seller did not have to box up the item and the seller took the route of least resistance.  So if the original buyer really wanted them item then he should have agreed to the entire cost of the item and the shipping.

So let think of in this manner you are looking a a specific car ina dealership you ask the price but have not sigend any contract and or even put any money down to hold the car. Another customer comes into the dealership likes the car takes it for a drive and puts down money to hold the car. You come back the next day and want the car, but it has a down payment the car is no longer on the market.  So you waited too long to deal.  So basically if you need a specific part and you find it on ebay or a local seller or where ever and you want it then you have to be willing to pay the full price or get a downpayment on the part to hold it for you or have a firm verbal or written letter stating that it is yours.

 

Go to a swap meet you find the item, try to get a lower price and the seller states what he wants for the item.  You put the part back on the table another guy comes in a picksup the items tries to get a lower price like you did. Seller hold to his asking price. The buyer then decides to pay the asking price, but you saw it first but you decided to pass and not pay the asking price, you can not get made at the seller or the guy that just purchased the item. If you wanted it then you needed to put the money on the table as the first buyer.

 

Here isa first experience that I saw at Hershey several years ago. I guy found a specific trim piece for his car. The asking price was around $40  the buyer tried to get the seller down to $30. He also was saying that this is the part that he really needed. The seller said that it is a hard part to find. The seller held to his asking prices.  The buyer then started to get wordy and said it is only worth $30. The seller said NO and raised the price to $45. the negoatiation contined and everytime the buyer opened his mouth the item went up another $5 dollars.  This went on for about 5 rounds. The buyer never kept his mouth shut.  The seller took the item from the buyer and then said I do not care if I do not sell this item.  He then took the item and broke it in half and said the to buyer I guess you or no one will get the item now.  Hard lesson in life. But the seller has the final say on the price. 

I am sorry that the buyer in the US lost the item but from what i read from the seller the buyer did not put any money down on the item and did not confirm the sell of the item.

Rich Hartung

desoto1939@aol.com

[Los_Control]

Sometimes these low baller's go over board. Like it is a addiction and they just cant help themselves. It is a hazard of craigs list.

I once had a high quality turntable from Germany for sale. On ebay they were listed for over $200. I just wanted it to go away, I had no room to store it after moving.

I listed it on craigs list for $25, had the original sales receipt from germany, instruction manual, extra needles, a spare belt.

First guy that called said he wanted it really bad, had to work for a couple hours and then would stop by after work to pick it up. I said would hold it for him, he called 3 more times that day wondering if I was still holding it. ( A couple others called before I removed the add, I said it was already sold )

He showed up after work and sure enough, he tried to find ways to nit pick it and then offered $15, told him to get his arse off the property and quit wasting my time.

 

Then I have a brother inlaw, he is mentally challenged. 45 years old and never worked a day in his life. Literally there is no place at his fathers home to park another car, . All day long the brother inlaw is on craigs list emailing sellers, "what is your bottom price?"

I feel sorry for those people, nothing I can do about it. Have heard him talk about getting a $3k car to $1k and then back out of the deal because he never planned on buying in the first place.

Need to be aware that there are those kinda people out there, not breaking any laws but just wasting your time.

Be aware when someone tries to lowball you, it just might be for their entertainment. I really do think it falls into a sickness like alcoholics or gamblers .... the thrill of the deal.

[JBNeal]

It was pointed out to me years ago that haggling is an art form where respect is key...telling someone that what they are selling is only worth X or telling the seller that you will only give X is an insult and will quickly end negotiations... Whereas asking if the seller could take X or could go for X keeps the negotiations ongoing...shipping costs are a killer, especially across the border, so it's best to disclose this upfront...I'm hoping all parties have learned something valuable from this exercise