Joe Flanagan Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Posted October 8, 2014 OK, Don, I'll do that. Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 Nice! That is a step in the right direction. Jeff Quote
RobertKB Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 Hopefully it is the pulley. Cheap and easy fix although it has been time consuming. I would strongly recommend putting a different pulley on as I have had a pulley separate into two parts. It was a water pump pulley like yours and not a dampener. Quote
_shel_ny Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 Get some water contained in there somehow, and run it longer before you put it back together. Quote
Adrian41D-19 Posted October 16, 2014 Report Posted October 16, 2014 Yeah, I just meant to run it for a short time before it overheated. A minute or 2 might even be OK without the water pump spinning. to prevent overheating without the radiator i use the hose from my garden, i stack it in the lower radiator hose and flush with cool water, so the engine don't overheat. the water come thru the engin and get out thru the upper radiator hose. Quote
Adrian41D-19 Posted October 16, 2014 Report Posted October 16, 2014 How would I do that, Ed? Run a line from the carburetor into a container of gas? Try gravity feed, like my model A ^^ take a 5 quarts can, and plug a hose between the can and the carburetor line. Quote
Adrian41D-19 Posted October 16, 2014 Report Posted October 16, 2014 after read all the topic, it's a happy end story !! that nice !! i'm glad it's not worse as the pulley ! Quote
_shel_ny Posted October 16, 2014 Report Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) after read all the topic, it's a happy end story !! that nice !! i'm glad it's not worse as the pulley ! OP has yet to confirm if the problem is solved, or not solved. (I hope it is ) Edited October 16, 2014 by shel_ny Quote
Adrian41D-19 Posted October 17, 2014 Report Posted October 17, 2014 yes, sorry ^^ my mistack ^^ i'm french and i maybe missed something when i read i hop too cause after all the work done on this plymouth, it is a very bad thing .... Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted October 17, 2014 Author Report Posted October 17, 2014 I've been out of town for the last few days and have not been able to do much with this. Before I left I removed the fuel pump and checked it for a loose pin or any damage. All looked good there. The starter is tight and the pinion gear does recede completely from the flywheel, at least it did the last time I started it. The bell housing bolts are all tight. I removed the flywheel cover and checked the bolts to the pressure plate. They are tight. I examined both sides of the flywheel and checked the teeth all the way around. There is no evidence that it has been hitting anything. Nothing obviously wrong with the throwout bearing. I dropped the oil pan and watched the pistons while a friend rocked the engine back and forth. Spent a good twenty minutes under there but didn't see anything wrong. I was unable to repair the bent pulley so ordered one from VPW. Figured I'd check all the aforementioned stuff while waiting for the part. I'll install the pulley when I return and see what happens. Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted October 18, 2014 Report Posted October 18, 2014 No scraping marks on the front side of the flywheel? Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted October 18, 2014 Author Report Posted October 18, 2014 No. I found none. The oil pan isn't reinstalled yet so I can take another look. I also need to check the end play in the crankshaft. Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted October 26, 2014 Author Report Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Well, I installed the new pulley and the noise is gone. I've now driven it 40 miles and the noise has not reoccurred. While I was checking things out, I discovered a few things that are probably worth mentioning. Whether or not any of them were the guilty party, I don't know: --When I checked the fuel pump, the pin and the arm looked good but one of the two mounting bolts was pretty loose. --It took almost no force at all to get the crankshaft nut loose when I removed it. --Both of my rear motor mounts were loose, or at least the bolts were. One was so loose I could turn it with my fingers. Tightening these required a deep 11/16 socket, which I did not have until yesterday. They were probably never tightened to begin with. It was probably one of those things where I "made a mental note" to myself to tighten them later, once I had the correct socket. So much for that. I did check the crankshaft end play, by the way, and it is within specs at 3 thousandths. Anyway, since this is the first engine I've ever rebuilt, I'm nervous about things going wrong so I'm reluctant to think I'm entirely out of the woods. But what I can say for sure at this point is I've driven 40 miles and there is no noise right now. Edited October 26, 2014 by Joe Flanagan 4 Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted October 26, 2014 Report Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) it is always a good idea to go over the car again after a lengthy build just to ensure that you did not forget tightening things as Joe has pointed out..I have known a couple things will feel tight when first done and when set in motion seems to magically get a bit of clearance....it is never wrong to take a second look... and Joe...good going guy..I know you breathing a bit easier now....just keep your eyes and ears open for just a while longer yet.. Edited October 26, 2014 by Plymouthy Adams Quote
zHxIxPxPxIxEz Posted October 26, 2014 Report Posted October 26, 2014 If only mine had turned out this lucky, I spun a bearing over last weekend and while I was wating for a rebuild kit I decided to clean up my manifolds and paint them. And then I snapped the exhaust clean in two. What the. Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted October 26, 2014 Report Posted October 26, 2014 Joe; Glad to hear you got this sorted out. If it is any consolation I think sometimes things like this occur for a larger reason. Just think of how much potential future grief you may have avoided by having to go through this little exercise. Jeff Quote
RobertKB Posted October 26, 2014 Report Posted October 26, 2014 Glad you got it fixed. The original noise you mentioned at first was probably the pulley separating. Knocking sound then followed. Always best to replace with new or very good original which is what you did. Good luck in the future! Quote
greg g Posted October 27, 2014 Report Posted October 27, 2014 If only mine had turned out this lucky, I spun a bearing over last weekend and while I was wating for a rebuild kit I decided to clean up my manifolds and paint them. And then I snapped the exhaust clean in two. What the.. Well now you have the perfect excuse to split the exhaust... Quote
greg g Posted October 27, 2014 Report Posted October 27, 2014 Good going Joe. Hope it will stay sorted so you can make some extended road trips. Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Posted October 27, 2014 Thanks all. I hope it stays sorted, too. I have a trip to Reading, PA planned in the near future. That would be the longest trip yet for my Plymouth. Quote
Rodney Bullock Posted October 29, 2014 Report Posted October 29, 2014 Hey Joe, glad to hear you are driving the car. I am doing a movie right now when I get back I have got to see the car all done up. I have been playing with the Charger so you will get to see that thing all finished as well. I can't wait to see it. Rodney Quote
zHxIxPxPxIxEz Posted October 29, 2014 Report Posted October 29, 2014 . Well now you have the perfect excuse to split the exhaust...it has been a thought. But im a kid and do not have alot of money and I have spent half a year restoring so I just want to drive :/ oh well more fun when I do it Quote
Joe Flanagan Posted October 29, 2014 Author Report Posted October 29, 2014 Hey Joe, glad to hear you are driving the car. I am doing a movie right now when I get back I have got to see the car all done up. I have been playing with the Charger so you will get to see that thing all finished as well. I can't wait to see it. Rodney That will be great, Rodney. You've seen this thing in all stages, from the time it was just a hulk and practically everything in between. Can't wait to see the Charger. I still have your clutch head screwdriver, by the way. Quote
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