Don Coatney Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 This morning my new radiator arrived. Champion 3 core Aluminum model number CC4749. Advertised as a bolt in for a P-15. I have been told by other forum members that I may have to lower the radiator by about one inch for hood clearance because I have moved my radiator forward to allow room for my Desoto engine. I will tell the tale of the tape once I mock everything up. Bought the radiator from Amazon $216.00 delivered to my front door. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) Looking good....I am sure Don will get hotter installing this than the car will with it in use....it is quite warm here at my place already...been out for a few hours and in for a cool down spell... For the record, if that fill spout is totally in the way...investigate inline rad cap in top hose...in using the Griffin/Summit unit in my retrofits...I make use of these inline fittings...the latest, bz cp with 2004 set up..the factory in 2004 used an inline..so win win there... Edited June 19, 2014 by Plymouthy Adams Quote
DonaldSmith Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 You gonna paint the radiator black, to look stock, or keep it mill finish, for some bling? What are the guys doing? (Probably some do and some don't, like everything else.) Do radiators require a special black paint to transmit the heat? Quote
greg g Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 what happened to the former radiator, leaking or running hot? Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 I have kept mine unpainted...I do believe that you need a special paint..the idea is the best transfer of heat from the fins is unpainted...corrosion..that is the thought that pushes you to paint.... Quote
Don Coatney Posted June 19, 2014 Author Report Posted June 19, 2014 what happened to the former radiator, leaking or running hot? Several leaks front and back. Time for replacement. I will not paint the new one. Quote
littlemo Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 Don; Does your new radiator have a "pressure-rating" ?? Thanks; Cass, alias littlemo,,, Quote
Don Coatney Posted June 19, 2014 Author Report Posted June 19, 2014 Don; Does your new radiator have a "pressure-rating" ?? Thanks; Cass, alias littlemo,,, Per a phone conversation with Champion the radiator will handle 16 pounds pressure. That is a lot more than it will ever see in my car. Quote
FULMNTE Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 Nice, I am running the same radiator in my Wayfarer for a few months now... No problems so far... 2 Quote
kented Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 Thanks for the review I've been looking at them online for my P17 but was a little unsure of the quality. Quote
Don Coatney Posted June 19, 2014 Author Report Posted June 19, 2014 I am getting too old to be doing this stuff by myself. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 don..thought that was the idea behind the move to Indiana...closer to family....I'll go hit myself with a peach switch now.... Quote
Don Coatney Posted June 19, 2014 Author Report Posted June 19, 2014 My son was going to drop the grandkids off at 4:30. I was going to have him help me lift it out. At 4:45 he had not arrived yet so I did it myself. He arrived at 4:47, honked and waved as he dropped the grandkids off and went speeding off into the sunset. 1 Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 I was trying to be funny with my comment...I now feel bad for bring it up...sorry... Quote
DonaldSmith Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 Those radiators are a bit heavy for an old man, especially at arm's length. I wrestled mine out when I did the p.s. modifications. I had my wife help me reinstall the radiator. Two people lifting at the sides is much easier. Quote
kented Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 Heavy? Jesus how old are you guys haha 1 Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) you young ones enjoy the times...one day your flexible pretzel bodies will set hard....lol..as for me, still going strong but I also know my days are numbered... Edited June 19, 2014 by Plymouthy Adams 1 Quote
T120 Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 Nice radiator Don,I'm sure it will work well for you in your hopped up Plymouth...and as for the advancing years as mentioned,I haven't played contact sports since I was a young fellow - and occasionally I'm painfully reminded of injuries I suffered as a young man and I wonder how those my age who were involved in professional sports such as hockey, football and rodeo must feel like when they tumble out of the sack in the morning .. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 Ralph...I was invited back to attend a cook out for the group I worked with after retiring 2 years ago..mainly younger set and playing softball...throwing,no problem. batting no problem..running was however a bit of prob..not that I could not run but getting started.. I found that I had almost forgot how to run, that first base hit was rough...after that I settled back in.,,,,best part was I was not sore afterwards..but rest assured..you don't use it..you will likely lose it... Quote
Oldguy48 Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 I installed a Champion radiator in my P15 a few years ago. Seems to be very well made and reasonably priced but at the time, they did not offer a radiator to fit the P15. The radiator I ended up with was meant for a mid 60's Ford Mustang. It was the best fit of their offerings. It works OK, but I'm interested in this thread, as the V8 in the car could use some reserve cooling on long grades, At times it tends to run hotter than I'm comfortable with, although it's never really overheated. This new radiator has a larger core than the one I used. If Don is satisfied with his new radiator, I might look into upgrading mine. I'll be following this thread. Wayne 1 Quote
DJ194950 Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 They usually have avail. 2 row and 3 row radiators, very close to the same price. I used one of their rad. in my 50 Ply. 3 row- suggested to cool up to 450 hp. Guaranteed? do not think so! My car is a stock 230 and can idle forever at home in 95D. weather forever! DJ Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 Those radiators are a bit heavy for an old man, especially at arm's length. I wrestled mine out when I did the p.s. modifications. I had my wife help me reinstall the radiator. Two people lifting at the sides is much easier. I now use my engine hoist for radiators on some of my cars- the radiators are just too big and heavy like the 1940-48 chrysler eight cylinder radiators-they are big and heavy! 1 Quote
littlemo Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) Yep, I'm about ready to wire and get that 318 running, but I know I'll need a new radiator that'll fit in front of the original mounting frame; that's why I was interested in Don's new one, especially if the pressure ratings adequate ??? Cass, alias littlemo... Add: Thanks Don !!! Edited June 20, 2014 by littlemo Quote
Don Coatney Posted June 20, 2014 Author Report Posted June 20, 2014 Yep, I'm about ready to wire and get that 318 running, but I know I'll need a new radiator that'll fit in front of the original mounting frame; that's why I was interested in Don's new one, especially if the pressure ratings adequate ??? Cass, alias littlemo... Add: Thanks Don !!! Contact forum member Mark Haymond. He installed this radiator in his 318 powered P-15. He is the one who told me the radiator is too tall and hits the hood when closed. He advised me to re-drill the mounting holes as he also has reversed the radiator mounting bracket to move the radiator 2 inches forward. I will start measuring in the morning. If you look at the photo posted by FULMNTE below the top radiator tank differs from the one I bought as the fill cap location has changed. I may not have to re-drill and lower the radiator in my car. Another issue I will have to deal with is the positioning of the upper radiator hose spout. On the Champion the spout turn down at a 90 degree angle and it is different on my original radiator. Nice, I am running the same radiator in my Wayfarer for a few months now... No problems so far... Quote
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