Door Lock

[Gizzardsniffer]

Ok, Mr Stupid has another question,lol.I have been trying to figure out how to remove the door lock from the passenger side door on this 52 I bought yesterday.I'm old and about blind which doesn't help to start with and the location is a pain to get to.I see there's a small hole on the side of the door and it appears there's a slotted screw in the side of the lock which is froze solid.Is this how the lock assembly comes a part or am I going in the wrong direction?Any help would be appreciated.I really want that lock!

[ggdad1951]

You can break off the stub as they are pretty frozen in. The you can put it back with a shaft collar. I did a thread on putting them back in.

[Gizzardsniffer]

Thanks.but I'm not sure if I'm following you.You say break off the stub,is the stub your talking about is where the slotted screw is located?And if so how do you get to it to break?Thru that 1/2in hole are from the bottom of door where I removed the door panel?

[Jeff Balazs]

I was able to get mine out without breaking anything. Try giving it some time with PB Blaster...... then and this is the key...... find a screw driver that fits the slot well ....give it a few sharp raps with a light hammer while applying a slight twisting action. Works more often than not on small screws like this.

 

Hope this helps, Jeff

[Gizzardsniffer]

Thanks Jeff,I soaked it over night and most of the day then ground a screw driver down to fit,but it just kept twisting the end off the screw driver.It's just such an awkward place to get to.I would use a stick of dynomite but the door is to good to waste.

[B1B Keven]

You can drive the lock out with a punch without removing the screw that's giving you trouble.

Mind you, you'll have to whack it pretty hard.

[ggdad1951]

Yes break off the stud. I use a small pry bar thru the hole in the door

[Gizzardsniffer]

Thanks folks,I'll try it again tomorrow

[Jeff Balazs]

You need a screw driver that has a properly hardened tip. The typical home improvement grade stuff from China is total crap. I have a few old Snap-on and Bluepoint drivers from the early 70's that have real tips.....there are others out there as well. These are a good thing to keep an eye open for at garage sales etc...  worth their weight in gold compared to most of the rubbish being sold now.

 

Jeff

[ggdad1951]

You need a screw driver that has a properly hardened tip. The typical home improvement grade stuff from China is total crap. I have a few old Snap-on and Bluepoint drivers from the early 70's that have real tips.....there are others out there as well. These are a good thing to keep an eye open for at garage sales etc...  worth their weight in gold compared to most of the rubbish being sold now.

 

Jeff

My problem has not bee the screw driver trying to remove these, but the set screw itself stripping out.  As I said I've used a pry bar thru the hole in the door and popped them off as well asa cold chisel thru the door access panel if the door is off and on some saw horses.  Either way the thread below is a great way to put them back w/o having to worry about them later.  But you are right tools have gone way down hill in quality.  I'd love to get my hands on some vintage 70's mechanics tools.

 

http://mopar.pairserver.com/p15d24ph_forum/topic/25219-door-lock-keeping-it-in-place/

Edited June 28, 2013 by ggdad1951

[Jeff Balazs]

Mark;

Yes they sure have. I have some I bought new back then and they are still great. If you don't mind mixed brand sets you can find them a few at a time at swap meets. In particular sockets and screw drivers were made to a much higher standard than a lot of the stuff available today.

They won't "fix" real bad threads but they cut way down on the slipping or rounding over incidences.

I have a few aircraft grade tools from the 40's and 50's and they are really superb. That was a period when in general we still made the best stuff in the world.

 

Jeff

[Don Coatney]

The tools made today are great to look at. Just dont try and use them to do actual work.

 

Pictured are some of my favorite screwdrivers, The 3 "CHAMPION" screwdrivers are close to 100 years old.

 

 

[Jeff Balazs]

The tools made today are great to look at. Just dont try and use them to do actual work.

 

Pictured are some of my favorite screwdrivers, The 3 "CHAMPION" screwdrivers are close to 100 years old.

 

 

 

 

Don;

Amen. Function over form should be the golden rule with tools. Even back in the 70's companies like Snap-on had more than one grade of tool. I bought a long phillips head off the truck and the tip which was supposed to be hardened gave out in short order..... the salesman replaced it with one that I still use all the time. Tip is still near perfect after 40 years of use. Try and find something new that good today........ It is damn near impossible.

 

I am sure that most of us here have an appreciation for tools and machines that were (or are in a few instance) made properly. The generations behind us have less of the picture than we do..... they are used to living with junk tools and machines & devices that have a very limited life span. They accept this as if it were a given and couldn't possibly be anything different. This everythings' disposable mentality is a pretty sad indicator of where things are headed.

 

Jeff

[Young Ed]

Jeff I have experienced this many times myself. Dad used to own his own repair shop and has a collection of primarily snap on tools. Very rarely does anything go wrong with them. So when I started buying my own thats what I went after. I have a lot of that and SK. Some craftsman. I've so far broken 0 snap on tools 1 sk socket and a bunch of craftsman screwdrivers and rachets. Last week I ordered I believe Marson rivet tool. Dad got about 40 years out of his first one and just within the last few had to replace it. When I ordered it from Napa the counter person asked me if I was sure because it would be $38. I said yes I know its a good one and will last. She said you'd be surprised at the # of mechanics who come in and won't pay that price and then are back for a second one.

Don;

Amen. Function over form should be the golden rule with tools. Even back in the 70's companies like Snap-on had more than one grade of tool. I bought a long phillips head off the truck and the tip which was supposed to be hardened gave out in short order..... the salesman replaced it with one that I still use all the time. Tip is still near perfect after 40 years of use. Try and find something new that good today........ It is damn near impossible.

 

I am sure that most of us here have an appreciation for tools and machines that were (or are in a few instance) made properly. The generations behind us have less of the picture than we do..... they are used to living with junk tools and machines & devices that have a very limited life span. They accept this as if it were a given and couldn't possibly be anything different. This everythings' disposable mentality is a pretty sad indicator of where things are headed.

 

Jeff

[ggdad1951]

my favorite screwdiver looks a LOT (just shorter) like the one on the left of the three in the first picture.  Good #2 flat blade.  I wish I could find a good #2 Phillips.

[Dave72dt]

used to have one of those champions.  good blade but the handle gave out on me - blade started turning inside the handle.

 

Don, Mt Everest.

[Jerry Roberts]

I bought an impact driver at Harbor Freight several years ago and used it several times , so it did pay for itself . The 'snap ring' that holds the bit in broke and I had to put the bit back in place after every hammer blow . I found an old American made impact driver at the flea market for just a couple dollars and have used it a couple of times now . I like the new-old American one . 

[Gizzardsniffer]

After fighting with that lock all day yesterday,I went back at it with new hope this morning after all the great advice I recieved and in less than two minutes the lock was laying in my greedy hands.Two good wacks and the set screw popped right off.Thanks for the help and all the tool talk was interesting too!

Gizz

[HanksB3B]

Don Coatney

 

 

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[48Dodger]

The tools made today are great to look at. Just dont try and use them to do actual work.

 

 

Some tools aren't better than others so much as they have a special meaning. 

 

My son and I were working in the shop and I told him to get my favoite phillips screw driver. He asked why it was my favorite, its old.....I told him, in 1985 a guy broke into my truck, stole my new stereo and left that very screwdriver.....and when I find him, I'm gonna stab him with it. lol. Now when I ask for that screwdriver....my son refers to it as the "shank".

 

48D

Edited June 28, 2013 by 48dodger

[Jeff Balazs]

Some tools aren't better than others so much as they have a special meaning. 

 

My son and I were working in the shop and I told him to get my favoite phillips screw driver. He asked why it was my favorite, its old.....I told him, in 1985 a guy broke into my truck, stole my new stereo and left that very screwdriver.....and when I find him, I'm gonna stab him with it. lol. Now when I ask for that screwdriver....my son refers to it as the "shank".

 

48D

Glad you managed to get that lock out.

 

Tim......I thought you carried a shank after you got out of lock up.....

 

You are right though about some tools having special meaning. I have several that every time I pick them up I think of my Dad.....or my Uncle .....or fellows I worked with many years ago. Some of these are in daily use here in the shop. I would go as far as to say that using some tools is ...... or can be a sort of spiritual experience. I have several old tools and machines that are probably on their 4th or 5th owner now and sometimes they almost seem to be alive. If you are in tune with them they will actually talk to you. Think I am joking? My old Davis & Wells bandsaw starts doing a faint clicking sound about a minute or so before a blade is about to break. You can tell in many instances if a tool or a machine is working properly just by the sound it makes. Each blade produces a unique sound when it cuts. You can actually hear the difference between sharp and dull. Many tools will groan or squeel when they are being pushed beyond reasonable limits.

And some can seem simply magic when they give us the help we need to create something truly extraordinary.

 

Guess you could say I am a bonifide tool junky. I can't even imagine where or who I would be without my lifetime's collection of them. My son-in-law is going to get one heck of a stash when I keel over. Hope he get's as much out of them as I have.

Jeff

[Don Coatney]

Tim......I thought you carried a shank after you got out of lock up.....

Jeff

Would that be shaw shank?

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