Rusty nuts...

[blueskies]

This info was posted on my Willys forum, thought I'd share...

Machinist's Workshop magazine tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts. They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment. The results are as follows;

Penetrating oil........... Average load

None ...................... 516 pounds

WD-40 .................... 238 pounds

PB Blaster ................ 214 pounds

Liquid Wrench ........... 127 pounds

Kano Kroil ................ 106 pounds

ATF-Acetone mix...........53 pounds

The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50-50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone.

Pete

[aero3113]

I thought this was going to be about old age judging by the title .

[blueskies]

I thought this was going to be about old age judging by the title .

Are you speaking metaphorically, or from personal experience?

Pete

[Andydodge]

Now I'm not sure whether I'd rather have rusty or loose nuts.............lol.........andyd

[thrashingcows]

That was posted on one of the other boards I frequent. Good info. I have personally made up the ATF-Acetone mix.

I did this after my last tranny service, filtered the fluid and then got the acetone from my neighbor, he's a fiberglass man and gets it for free!!

Haven't really had a chance to use it yet, sure the new desoto will give me plenty of opportunities though....

[aero3113]

Are you speaking metaphorically, or from personal experience?

Pete

LoL, no experience here yet .

[1949P17BC]

Its been so cold this winter I haven't seen mine for weeks.. The rusty nuts and bolts on my 48 Dodge that is

[Bill Ford]

Where do you buy Acetone and does it matter what kind of ATF use use? Very interesting information. What is the Acetone used for?

[Plymouthy Adams]

its the penetrant..the oil will provide the lube..thinned both work together..any hardware store/Lowes etc should have your acetone...any tranny oil should be sufficient...

where is the test with wintergreen oil?

[Frank Elder]

Right on Tim! Maybe they are scared:eek:

[Joe Flanagan]

"Rusty Nuts." Wasn't that the Tin Man's nickname in the Wizard of Oz?

[JIPJOBXX]

They forgot one and that is Winter Green oil! We used that down at the shipyard and it really works great. Its smells like spearmint gum and don't sit on it or your butt will be on fire! I know from past experiences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_salicylate

[Captain Neon]

I'm thinking alcohol would work in a pinch if one couldn't get acetone. Sources for alcohol: fuel line antifreeze (methanol and isopropanol), and Don & Tim's special elixir (ethanol).

[Olddaddy]

Kroil is King at my shop, use it on everything. I like the Wintergreen oil idea though, sounds kinda...........festive! They also did not include my favorite tool, the gas wrench. Heat them bastards up good and red and they fly off the bolt.

[Flatie46]

Kroil is King at my shop, use it on everything. I like the Wintergreen oil idea though, sounds kinda...........festive! They also did not include my favorite tool, the gas wrench. Heat them bastards up good and red and they fly off the bolt.

I'm in total agreement with ya! Kroil and or heat and they'll find a way off! Ain't nothin' like the "smoke wrench"!!!

[greg g]

Gotta be carefull with wintergreen oil prologed exposure can be absorbed through the skin and it is toxic.

In pure form, methyl salicylate is toxic, especially when taken internally. A single teaspoon of methyl salicylate contains 7g of salicylate,[9] which is equivalent to more than twenty-three 300 mg aspirin tablets. The lowest published lethal dose is 101 mg/kg body weight in adult humans.[10] It has proven fatal to small children in doses as small as 4 mL.[3] A 17 year-old cross-country runner at Notre Dame Academy on Staten Island, died April 3, 2007, after her body absorbed high levels of methyl salicylate through excessive use of topical muscle-pain relief products

Think it might be related to that hemlock stuff Plato was so fond of.

[Harvey Tank]

Thanks Pete, I am gona make me a batch tomorrow. good info.

[JIPJOBXX]

Yea we used that wintergreen stuff back in the 70's and 80's. You could smell that stuff a mile away! I really never did sit in it but a work partner I had did. He was always the one with the big hammer and get it done attitude. Well one night we were taking studs out of a steam chest and were trying everything under the sun. So my buddy somehow got this stuff and in no time flat had it all over the area and then he sat in it!!! Not but a few more seconds and his *** was burning and oft to the dispensary he went. I laugh as he never did take his time and that time he should have.

[41/53dodges]

anybody actually try the ATF-acetone? i hear alot of chatter on the internet about it, but nobody ever tried it.

[thrashingcows]

anybody actually try the ATF-acetone? i hear alot of chatter on the internet about it, but nobody ever tried it.

I have a gallon mixed in my garage. Just haven't had a chance to use it yet. I'll definitely update when I do use it.

[41/53dodges]

im kinda thinkin for use on engines...

[PatS....]

im kinda thinkin for use on engines...

I was thinking the same thing. One of the guys with a stuck engine should try it...can't hurt.

Does the ATF prevent the acetone from evaporating so quickly though?

[LuckyDevil]

My brother always used transmission fluid on window regulators to get them freed up if they were seized. Then after they were free, he would clean them and lubricate them. So, I guess there is a little bit of truth to the tranny fluid and acetone.

[Phil Martin]

Be very careful with any flame around acetone. Very volitile I think thats the word I want.

[41/53dodges]

does acetone hurt any metals? in theory, wouldnt you want the thinnest oil you could buy? or is there something special about ATF?