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Hi Mopar Heads, I learned of a man in the National Woodie Club who makes authentic looking miniature woodies on 1/24 scale models, from scratch. He can make a model for me of PLYWOOD, if I can locate a 1/24 scale model kit. There is an existing 1941 1/32 scale kit available, but that is too small and not a P15. Does anyone know of a source for P15 1/24 scale model kits? Or any suggestions? Thanks, Charlie in AZ

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Charlie,

My Dad was a Night Fighter Pilot for the USMC so I got exposed to aircraft at a young age, and when I was nine years old I sold Christmas cards around the neighborhood and got a Berkeley 'Piper Super Cruiser' balsa model as a prize. I never did finish that model but it began a lifetime of creating models. Later in life I built scale models of some of the more exotic aircraft he flew (the Douglas F4-D Skyray was the first) and used aircraft plywood as a medium. Using Douglas drawings and 1\32" three-ply stock it was fairly simple to recreate the aircraft with all those layers of cross-grain wood telling tales of when I was getting close.

Last year I decided to use my experience building models by applying it to our cars and went on a dedicated search for a plastic model or factory drawings of any scale. An experienced detail draftsman, I saw little challenge to scaling whatever I got t whatever I wanted, but, alas, such are not yet to be found by me. I could make a plywood model from that plastic model you found but you don't want me to because the cost in time alone would be prohibitive for the first one. After that they'd be a lot cheaper but what is the market for models of our cars? Probably less than what it was when they were new, which might explain why none were ever commercially created.

If you want to learn how to do it yourself with plywood I'll be happy to give you a simple lesson, and if you find any drawings or a model of our P-15s let me know; the first one I create will be mine and the you'll get one for cheap and after that I'll recreate them upon request.

-Randy

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There was a guy on eBay that was selling P15 plastic model kits that swapped out parts with the 1941 Plymouth kit you show. The 1941 Plymouth kit offered the bones, and the P15 kit had the body and some other trim parts to make the '41 into a P15. He had them for convertibles, coupes, and four doors. I haven't seen them since spring, but I haven't been on much this summer. Look around and its bound to show up again.

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There was a guy selling p15 bodies at the natioals here a few years ago, I foud his site on the web. Tey were cast syrene if I rember correctly and I think that maybe the basis for the company name, but I can't quite remember. His suggestion was that you buy the body and put it on the 41 chassis. I thing he had a club coupe body and a vert. they were like 25 bucks 4 years ago.

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A complete ready to assemble model of the P15 and D24 various body styles would be idea and would in my opinion sell especially if priced reasonable. As for getting a 1/25 scale body and have to try to scrounge parts from other kits to build a model..I have enough heartache finding real parts for real cars..don't need the extra headache.

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This is the resin cast club coupe body on a 41 chassis. Bumpers and door handles taken from a 53-54 Chevy kit. I think the resin dody is still available, check the model magazines. There is also a resin '41 four door kit, but I haven't finished that yet. It uses the same chassis from the '41 coupe kit.

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There is an ebay seller who goes by the name Mitey Mouse.....has tons of models.

Most are resin. You have to finish them......some need more things than others.

I looking at ebay just now, it seems Mitey Mouse does not have any models for

sale at the moment.

I think he may have a two door sedan P15, and possibly a four door.

Just have to keep watching the models section.

I have the P15 business coupe and convertible models. I think the coupe was around

$35, the convertible about $48.

I think R & R VacuumCraft made the coupe. Got the vert from Scaling Down.

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Charlie,

Last year I decided to use my experience building models by applying it to our cars and went on a dedicated search for a plastic model or factory drawings of any scale. An experienced detail draftsman, I saw little challenge to scaling whatever I got t whatever I wanted, but, alas, such are not yet to be found by me. I could make a plywood model from that plastic model you found but you don't want me to because the cost in time alone would be prohibitive for the first one. After that they'd be a lot cheaper but what is the market for models of our cars? Probably less than what it was when they were new, which might explain why none were ever commercially created.

-Randy

Randy I have a builders blueprint for my 46 pickup that sounds exactly like what you are describing. Has heights widths lengths all over it for the various parts of the truck. I would think if my truck has one other mopars should too.

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The AMT 1941 Plymouth Coupe was last issued in 1998, whilst the main boxart shows a stock coupe the kit includes all the stock and street rod parts that were originally released as 2 separate kits back in the late 70's. the kits were reissued about 3-4 times up to that last release in 1998. There have been a few resin conversions over the years including 4dr sedans as well as the P15, 1946-48 Plymouths........the biggest problem now would be that the AMT kits are getting hard to find.......for what its worth I own a hobby shop...... www.scaleautomobilia.com.au and specialise in plastic car,truck and aircraft kits......regards, andyd

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The resin relm model is the one I remember seeing. Looked decent, fair to good details, but the body itself is quite a thick material. Look around the window frames.

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Young Ed,

That's precisely what I'm looking for and haven't been able to locate. Do you recall where you got the plans, or is there a name on them?

AndyD,

If I had a model, even one poorly done, I could take the basic measurements from it and then correct them as necessary. I'll visit your website and snoop around.

I had to move the sheets of plywood when cleaning house last week and that's the first time I've thought about the project in months. It would be pleasant for me to have a relaxing project.

Thanks,

-Randy

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Randy I believe it came out of a WPC magazine. If you have a desire to build a pickup I'll get a photocopy mailed to you. For that matter anyone with a 39-47 pickup that wants one let me know.

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Young Ed,

It might be easier to make a pickup than a sedan, and since my modeling skills are a bit unpolished of late it might be good practice. Would you prefer a snail-mail addy or email? I'll PM you with your choice.

Thanks,

-Randy

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The diagram is pretty detailed. We can try a scan but it might not be readable. Otherwise I'll make a copy and mail it.

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Here is a fellow who seems to into models big time. He has cataloged in albums several "other" makers of model car bodies. Some interesting stuff, including a tucker, bathtub nash, a Power Wagon, the Big Bodied Jeep Wagon hudson, and studebaker wagon, and some others Even an Edsel.

http://public.fotki.com/ElCaminoBilly/model-car-aftermarket/

and another who embraces wagons

http://public.fotki.com/wackydave/model_cars/resin_bodies/resin_station_wagon/

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Yes... R & R makes them. I picked up several a couple of years ago. I was glad I waited because the ones I got had chromed bumpers. Detail is quite good on them. I'm going to scan them with a 3D laser scanner and create wireframe models for use in my 3D modeling and animation program. Then of course I'll build them out and put them on my shelf :)

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David,

How do you you scan them and what program do you use for 3-D modeling? Better yet, what program would I need to open your drawings after you sent them to me? PLEEEEEEZE!

I still want to create the pickup for which I may soon have plans, but a wire-frame rendition is how I learned to loft boats and is essentially what I used to model my Dad's aircraft, and I am quite familiar with the concept and the mechanics of its use.

What I'll do in return is give to you as a gift the best of the first three P-15 models I create using aircraft plywood as a medium, your choice from photos. I wish I could offer more.

-Randy

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Randy,

I'm using a NextEngine 3D Laser scanner. The models are ported to 3D Studio Max in 3ds format and STL format. I have a 3D Printer as well and hope to be able to print quality copies, but that's yet to be seen. We just upgraded to the latest 3D laser scanner and our Techs need to set it up and install the newest scanning software. I'm not allowed to do any of that for a variety of reasons though, if they don't get their butts in my classroom quick, I'm gonna do it myself anyhow. I'll keep everyone posted on progress and contact you directly when I get a quality scan. I tried it with our previous scanner, but the combination of an inferior scanner and a computer that was too slow to handle the data transfer resulted in models with large gaps in the mesh. The plywood models sound really cool!! Stay after me on this. I usually have so many things going that I have trouble following up unless someone bugs me, so please do bug me!!! I'll send an email to my classroom right now as a reminder. Email me at my fortyseven.plym@verizon.net account as a reminder too and I'll forward that to my work. David

David,

How do you you scan them and what program do you use for 3-D modeling? Better yet, what program would I need to open your drawings after you sent them to me? PLEEEEEEZE!

I still want to create the pickup for which I may soon have plans, but a wire-frame rendition is how I learned to loft boats and is essentially what I used to model my Dad's aircraft, and I am quite familiar with the concept and the mechanics of its use.

What I'll do in return is give to you as a gift the best of the first three P-15 models I create using aircraft plywood as a medium, your choice from photos. I wish I could offer more.

-Randy

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