BobT-47P15

a few variations

My biggest excitement was simply finding the car in the first place.......back in 1973. It's the only P15 convertible in usable condition I have ever seen in this part of the country. Back then I saw two more in salvage yards, in such bad condition they were not usable in my opinion. They were damaged and rusted out and I don't recall they had any parts I needed. Fortunately, the owner of the small junkyard where I found the car felt it was valuable enough to store it in a building out of the weather. Not sure how long he had it, but the tires were flat and sunk into the dirt floor, so it had been there a while. I had to crawl in through a window to see the car due to all the other "stuff" he had stacked around it. Otherwise, my excitement was finding parts here and there over the years to make it better.....and finally being able to drive it and make it look nice.

There were many brands of visors in the after market field back then. It's nearly impossible to tell what make/model they were really intended for now. Someone probably got your items off another old car in a salvage yard or at a swap meet and made them fit. The Fulton brand visor is the most well known and most popular today, but still no real way to tell the intended model.....unless it is still in the original box. They do have a certain amount of adjustment to them to suit the various cars. As I said earlier, my skirts are 33 3/4" long by 11" tall...........and seem like a decent fit. But I still have no idea what car they were initially intended for.

If I had some extra play money, and a place to store them, I would buy all the old P15s I could find around here....use them as parts cars. Of course there are less now than in years gone by. So I just try to buy a few parts when I can.

Regarding the "watershield" or waterproofing material behind the door panel.....my P15 service manual says: "The watershield (waterproof paper), on cars so equipped, is cemented to the door inner panel. Its purpose is to protect the door trim panel from lubricant on the window regulator and door lock and from water which may enter the door between the door glass and outer door panel during a rain. To remove....carefully separate the cemented watershield from the inner door panel. When installing, cement the watershield in place with MOPAR Super Rubber Cement. Replacement watershield is available in roll form. If not available use oil cloth or low cost leatherette material."

Rear door window regulator on P15 Front door window regulator P15

Found this picture of a door latch on a P15.....probably very similar on a D24.

I would be inclined to do just what you did Larry. Some of these pieces have gotten hard to come by now and the price asked was reasonable. I looked for a cigarette lighter for my P15 for many years.....didn't want to pay the eBay prices........finally found one in a junk coupe about 12 miles from here and the seller didn't think it was any big deal......only charged me $25. My theory nowadays is to buy all the little items I come across at a reasonable price and stash them for spares. If someone I know needs something I have badly enough, I will likely sell them one at a fair price. Found a few things at Hershey this year like some door latches - I needed one so I bought a couple extras too. Wish I had purchased even more stuff from salvage yard cars back in the 70s when you could buy a pile of stuff for maybe $20 and everyone was happy. Now those yards are all gone.

Dave Kruze makes repro rubber parts.

Someone is offering these on eBay..........I don't recall ever having seen them before. Anyone familiar with them.......do they work well........are they really needed? Link to ad: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HVAC-Heater-Hose-Shaping-Coil-GATES-28517-/271658716662?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1947%7CMake%3APlymouth&hash=item3f401f0df6&vxp=mtr

My skirts are 33 3/4" long by 11" tall. They overlap the opening by an inch or more all around. I put a small sheet metal screw in each end to secure them as the original mounting hardware was missing and I had to invent some of my own, which was not as good as I would have liked. I had some before them that were too short up and down........think they were for a Ford........sold them. These are just universal......don't know what they were listed to fit when new.

OK Tim........but they look larger than that. How do they attach. The Foxcrafts usually had a springy piece of wire on each bottom end, and a latch that you turned to hook at the top........held against the face of the fender.

Ulu........that skirt pictured looks like a Foxcraft brand...........aftermarket, as they were all aftermarket for these cars. The 49 and 50 Chevies and Ponitacs came with factory skirts that fit inside the fender openings. But not Fords or Mopars.

Different but similar convert offered for sale. I think this door panel is probably correct, but probably has been re-done.

Found this on the internet......it says this is a very fine example of an original 1950 Plymouth convertible. It appears in this case to have both leather seats and door panels. Another pic of same car

I've seen many cars with spotlights on them......think they are kinda cool......have never noticed one I would say was incorrectly installed from back in the day. Back then they were pretty common and installers would have gotten the correct bracket and mounting template with the new light. Nowadays you can't tell whether a used bracket goes to a Ford, Chevy ... or what. So I would suggest corresponding with the Unity company, as stated above. Some spots even went through the door instead of the windshield post.

I have either one or two drums that are missing the studs. To me, the stud makes it easier to mount the wheel and get the holes aligned. I've never tried drilling a guide hole in a rim without one.......but it sounds pretty logical,

Yes.........I can relate. Our convertible has been used in three different weddings......the first was a young man and his bride...... then a few years later his sister and her groom..........plus another young lady from our church, No charge, of course......but there were lots of smiles.

Cool place. There seem to be numerous facilities around the country, including one in Grandview, MO and another we've been to in Bella Vista, AR............that are used as event centers decorated with old cars for the customers to wander amongst. Have heard of others. Anyone else know of a similar type place? [Armacost museum event center, Grandview..........http://petersoncarmuseum.com/Museum.htm] [some cars at Simple Pleasures in Bella Vista.............https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/1383093_590352141012403_2084150031_n.jpg?oh=ab9e13ebe6fecffb4abfbe6a8512983c&oe=554314C2&__gda__=1430363647_f2c690a68fe54bd35bfedc80976ca416]

Yeah.........Norm was a cool guy. He could expound upon just about any topic out there. I did have the pleasure of meeting him in person at the same time as Don C. We were on Don's home turf (at that time) of Murfreesboro, TN. After lunch, Don took us for a spin in his P15. (Me in the middle) Good times.

I presume your new ride is the one pictured as your avatar. Got any more photos and/or pics of the interior. Looks real nice. Welcome to the forum.

That is just another collection that has now surfaced...........there are many more along that line in places like Mexico, Argentina, Buenos Aires and so forth. A lot of houses have "courtyards" full of old cars, but you have to know just the right people to see them. And then, not all are for sale. And there are dangers from the criminal element on top of everything else. One fellow on the HAMB has been living in Mexico the past several years.........has managed to see a lot of old cars......has bought a few and shipped some back to the U S. He says it's not that tough to get them back into our country. Lots of mysteries left in the old car field.

I just looked on eBay..........."seaplym" (Neil Riddle) in Seattle is offering a new pair of reflectors for a buy-it-now price of $27.50 and free shipping. Not a give-away but probably a correct size and look for replacement. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-1952-Plymouth-Tail-Light-Reflectors-NEW-Pair-Convertible-Dodge-DeSoto-old-/221628104312?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item339a107e78&vxp=mtr As Tim said.........at swapmeets and flea markets, you can often find various styles of reflectors real cheap.....some are better candidates for the purpose than others. I can't recall which year used the white reflectors and which used the red ones............

Merle........depends what he would use on the front wheels......................so many variables..............

Hi. Welcome to the forum. Good luck in your undertaking. One solution to the 4 or 5 lug wheels might be...........if the Ford rims would hold a 15" full size 53 Plymouth wheel cover, then who would see the lugs? Another question is........did this car have an overdrive transmission? If so, it could be re-sold as they are usually sought after. Have you located any source of replacement parts.........like a parts car you can buy.....maybe for bumpers and such. Just some things for consideration.