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A friend of mine went to a local car show and found an original 1957 DeSoto salesman Award. I have posted the certificate for your information. Rich hartung Desoto1939@aol.com
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Miker: This is rich Hartung and I have a 1939 Desoto 4 door sedan. Contact me and we can talk about the 39 Desoto. i will send you a private message . Rich Hartung desoto1939@aol.com
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Look for a 6 volt single headlight relay you do not need a dual 6volt relay since you will only be supplying current to single bulb light and not a high and low beam situation. So look for a single relay 6 volt on ebay or at a swap meet Most of these being solfd usually have an instruction sheet. One wire will come from your switch or toggle switch to turn on the fog lights from inside the car. One wire will come from a connection from the battery to supply current to the relay use a 10 gage wire. One wire also 12 gage will then run out to the foglights might want to run this power wire to a new seperate junction box light what youhave for your regular headlights This wire then is attached to the stud and the two wires from the foglights are also attached to this same stud. Turn on the ignition switch and then turn on the switch to the foglight and they should work turn off the foglight switch and they go off and then turn off the ignition the foglight switch if turned back on should not even supply electric to the lights. I have this same setup on my 39 Desoto . Rich hartung Desoto1939@aol.com
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Distributor Help for my Barn Find 1950 Fastback
desoto1939 replied to Theturtle's topic in P15-D24 Forum
Los Control: If you follow the entire posting this owner verified that the correct distributor is current installed in his engine block. I had attached a page from my Autolite Manual with the year specific models and this matches his car. So according to what the owner replied back to me he has the correct dizzy and has also ordered the correct breaker plate for the dizzy and his car also has the Vaccuum Advance module. Each owner can do what ever they please to do with their car/truck. All I was trying to do is help the owner verify the installed equiptment so he could continue on with getting the engine running. Maybe this gentleman wants to have the period correct parts and not switch out to other parts. We all know that the original parts will perform in his car. Rich hartung desoto1939@aol.com -
Distributor Help for my Barn Find 1950 Fastback
desoto1939 replied to Theturtle's topic in P15-D24 Forum
I have the old style breaker plate with the small ball bearings in between the two halves. The car has been running on this style for over 85 years on my 39 Desoto. Yes on the NOS Breaker plate for my car I clean out the old grease that was used to lubricate the ball bearings. Just like anything on an older car you have to maintain certain things to keep them free and moving. I also still have the distributor that came with the car from the factory. And rotate the grease cap to keep the inner bushings lubricated. I do that every two months. So the older parts are fine and work just fine. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com -
Distributor Help for my Barn Find 1950 Fastback
desoto1939 replied to Theturtle's topic in P15-D24 Forum
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Distributor Help for my Barn Find 1950 Fastback
desoto1939 replied to Theturtle's topic in P15-D24 Forum
another way to look at parts is to purchase a rate book that covers your car. They ususally are found at swap meets at a very small cost. The nice think about a rate book is that it supplies you with lots of parts information and also acts as a cross reference manual for your car. You will be surprise at what you will learn by jus reading the section on your car. I have several and these are great items to have along with the service manual and parts manual. Rich Hartung desoto1939@aol.com -
Distributor Help for my Barn Find 1950 Fastback
desoto1939 replied to Theturtle's topic in P15-D24 Forum
I did a search on the internet and found the following information regarding dist# 1300795. So by justing trying to find information just by the MoPar number I was able to provide the below information. Always try to do some investigation on your own you might find the answer and also you might find a vendor that has the part. This then provided me with the following info and the breaker plate is IAP3004RE IAP.3OO4RE BBEAKEB PLATE ASSEMBLY* IAP.lO()4RE PLATE-LOWEB IGS.lO92BS PLATE_UPPEB Used on Dodge 1949-50 Plymouth 1949-50 SO by looking at the lisiting you have a P20 Plymouth Dist # IAP-4103A-1 Rich hartung Desoto1939@aol.com Distributor Breaker Plate: This is a NOS distributor breaker plate for ALL of the years & models listed below with 6 cylinder engines. Distributor number is 1300795. NEW original Chrysler/Autolite part. See below for Engine info. Part Number: 1308180 [Autolite IAP3004RE] Years: 1950 -
Distributor Help for my Barn Find 1950 Fastback
desoto1939 replied to Theturtle's topic in P15-D24 Forum
Theturtle: You wil have to open the hood to your car and then use a flashlight and maybe even a mirror. You need to look at the tag on the body of the distributor to get the model number. When ordering parts for your dizzy the parts supplied needs to know the model number. The numbers that you are provviding are the MoPar part number but we need the autolite model number. My catalog does not list the mopar number. Rich -
Distributor Help for my Barn Find 1950 Fastback
desoto1939 replied to Theturtle's topic in P15-D24 Forum
Here is the information that you need to determine what is the Autolite Model number of the Dist: Look on the plate that is attached to the body of the dist then this is the model of the sist that you use to get the appropriate parts for your Dist I have a complete Autolite catalog that will tell you all of the info that you need for your car. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com -
DO NOT overfill the differential because the oil can then seep past the inner oil seals and then seep out the end of the axle and then the oil can get on you brake pads or shoes. I keep my oil level approx 1/4 inch below the bottom of the fill hole. Also on the end of the axle housing there should be two small bolts that can be removed. You take these out and this is how you can lubricate the inner bearing. o not use a zerk fitting because you will push to much grease into the are and it will also leak out on the shoes. Put the grease on your thumb and then pack the grease into the hoe makes a couple times but this is the proper method to grease the inner bearing. Read the shop manual on your car. Rich hartung desoto1939@aol.com
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I have read that when you have carbon buildup you can start the car and let it come to regular idle. Take the air cleaner off the carb get a small bottle of distill water and then increase the speed of the engine and pour some water down the carb and keep the rpm's up. This should also remove the carbon build up if you have any. You do not pout the entire bottle of water directly all at the same time just a little at a time. It is like steam cleaning the entire internals. I have done this on my 39 Desoto. It might work but go slow and a little at a time on the water. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com
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America sold out to the foreign countries years ago. Just look at our US State Steel manufacturers. Here is a prime example. We had Bethlehem Steel that was a major US Stell producer in the US and also had its main plant in Bethlehem PA. They constructed a new bridge over the Lehigh river just about 100 feet from the blast Furness and where the steel is stored for delivery. So all they had to do was product the steel girders and then immediately put the steel in place for the bridge. But they could not get the best price so the construction company went to Japan had the steel made in Japan, shipped it over to the USA had it transported to the site and was able to get a cheaper cost. Company greed got the best of our US Steel and we did not modernize out plants like they did in Japan. Do some research on Deming who told our us companies to modernize but the big companies did not and the Japanese and China is now kicking our butts and they own our country because of all our debt Rich hartung
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here is some information on AF to use in our antique cars and trucks. Use the OLD GREEN STYLE Anti-freeze style not the new extended life products. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com Zerex Original Green Antifreeze .pdf Antifreeze to use in our antique cars.docx Antifreeze in classic cars.pdf
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Yes the 20 amp glass fues is inserted into the metal housing that twist out of the base. Place the fuse into the hosuing and then insert it into the base and then twist the hosuing and it attaches via the two tabs. Have this on my 1939 desoto. Pep48 I live near King off Prussia Rich Hartung desoto1939@aol.com
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The original Solar Coil that had the mounting flange as part of the total assembly basically is not available but you can use an Autolite Coil and then get the appropriate mounting braqcket. Currently on Ebay search 1937 dodge coil. You will fid a NOS coil for over $300 and then the mounting bracket. I have found NOS Autolite coils at swap meets for my 39 Desoto that uses the same coil set up. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com
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since this was found near the door and side of the front set I would try to remove the bottom of the front seat and then check the brackets that hold the seat and allows you to move the seat forward and back or something with tilting of the back top half of the seat. This is just a wild asX guess. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com
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New guy here: 1949 Plymouth Super Deluxe
desoto1939 replied to 1949plymouthdeluxe's topic in P15-D24 Forum
You had mentioned that the 49 Ply, which is a very nice, does not have an oil filter. The ones that were installed at that time are a by-Pass filter. These is a plug along the edge of the oil galley that permits oil to flow upto the filter and then return to the oil pan. You stated that you are using 10W40 oil. 10w-40 is a detergent oil and would have been use when the car has an oil filter and multiweight oils are also a detergent oil. Just wanted to let you know that by using the 10w-40 oil there isa good possibility that the oil in the pan might have sludge built up over the years and since it did not have any oil filter on the car if the sludge get lose then you have a possibility to getting sludge pushed through the engine block and then causing other issues. I would recommend that you use a straight weight 30 motor oil. This is what was used back when these cars were produced and is not a multi-weight oil that is also a detergent oil. Do some reading on the Plymouth and also purchase a service manual and a parts manual for this car. The service manual will provide a lot of informatio and how to maintain the car and the parts manual is important when looking for specific 49 parts. Welcome to the forum and ask alot of questions. Rich Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com -
More on additives, short story fuel additives good, oil additives bad
desoto1939 replied to greg g's topic in P15-D24 Forum
I watched this several weeks ago and I like how the gentleman presented his information. It is amazing that none of these products in their literature actually describe how they enhance the oil in the engine. Also when he showed that they all separate after sitting and then do not really mix with the oil is another major concern. At my local car club meeting i present a recap of this video and most people were taken back and they thought that these products did mix with the oil. So all in all just the regular motor oil for our cars is the best. Even in you literature and owners manuals for our cars there is nothing being stated that they prefer any certain product to enhance the oil. I do like that he states the use of fuel additives to help keep the carbs and fuel lies clean and to keep the plugs clean. In todays world a car that has regular oil changes and maintenance should at least get 150-200k miles with the electronic ignitions and all of the other enhancements in technology. Two years ago my wife was a chase car when I drove my 39 Desoto from valley Forge Pa which is outside of Philadelphia Pa across the State of Pa via the Pa Turnpike to Altoona PA for the Desoto Convention and car show. I was traveling around 50 mph and had no issues with truckers or other cars. She was in a 2019 Honda CRV and was also doing 50MPG. We used the onboard fuel monitor and she was getting close to 45 MPG. So, with our concerns of oil and gas production it just goes to prove that the lower mph is cost efficient instead of permitting cars and trucks to go 70+ mph and also consuming more oil and gas. I have found that when doing under 65 MPH i can average around 34-35 so slow down and leave maybe 15-30 earlier and conserve our limited supplies of the oil and gasoline products. Ric Hartung Desoto1939@aol.com -
did this car come with any circuit breaker on the headlight switch? did you leave the ignition switch turned on when you parked the car? Might have burned the points and they are stuck together. Pull the dizzy cap and rotor to inspect this area. Check that the wires are all connected to the voltage regulator. Maybe the points need to be cleaned or adjusted in the voltage regulator. Rich hartung desoto1939@aol.com
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Here is your information taken from my brake catalog. You use the braking ling number 1162 just like in my 39 Desoto Thickness is 3/16. I have the drilled sets that are riveted to the metal shoe. Some people prefer the bonded lining. The older set were asbestos but these are the better linings and stop better. The part number 1162 is a standard in the brake industry. So if you search on ebay for brake 1162 youwill see linings and also complete lining with brake shoes and linings attached. Knowing the correct brake part number is so important becasue these sets were made specfically to fit your cars/trucks. What type of lining do you already have installed, Riveted or bonded? I have several sets of these lining if you need some. Rich Hartung desoto1939@aol.com
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I had similar issue with the front left brake pulling hard to the left. There was no grease or leaking brake fluid on the front left or right shoe linings. We replaced all brakes hoses rebuilt the two single cylinder cylinders and adjusted brakes shoes as per specs. Measured the pressure in the hoses going to each brake show and drum. We still had pulling to the left. Then my very experience mechanic took all four front shoes off the car and then took a skim cut on each line approx 5-10 thousands off each shoe. Installed the shoes and the issue was resolved. He feels that there might have been something in the lining or it hardened up and glazed. My two front drums were also cut down by him in 2020 might have been some material leftover from cutting drum, but he did not feel this was the issue. The car has been stopping fine and have a great brake. Very small issue can cause major problems. Rich hartung Desoto1939@aol.com
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the only problem with the new rebuild kits is that they do not contain all of the internal parts that would have come with the original carter rebuild kits. Some might say that since the lether on the accelerator pump might be old all you should be doing is soak in a little light oil so soften up the leather and you will be good to go.. I collect the older original carter kits for my 39 Desoto also the other interesting part is that all of the various cater rebuild parts are listed on the outside of the box with the carter number. I have found that if you copy the sheet and then take this with you to a swap meet i have found that most of these internal brass parts are used for many years across the various Carter carb kits for our cars and trucks. I have also found that you can build your own kits by removing these small parts when you find another carter kit. Sometime i have found kits for $10-15 with useable parts, Also you get to learn more about your car. Always be prepared in advance. Rich Hartung
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Here is a lisiting of fp taken from my Airtex FP catalog. from 1935-52 all 6 cyl used the 588 pump. Some manufacturers did have them with the glass bowel and others did not. I have the 588 on my 39 desoto with the glass sediment bowel and I do not have any leakage issues with the cork gasket and I have owned my car for 35 years. Rich Hartung desoto1939@aol.com