TrampSteer Posted January 30, 2018 Report Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Going to see if I can buy it. What do you think it is worth? Not running Missing starter and generator (suspicious low gauge wires replacing large gauge 6v wires) One really rusty door hing Lots of rust near rain gutters Rolls 1/31/18 edit: Guy showed up today finally and he wants to throw wads of cash at it. No chance to buy as we thought. So I'll watch and learn at least. Edited January 31, 2018 by TrampSteer Follow up 2 Quote
ggdad1951 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Posted January 30, 2018 panels are cool and hard to find. Anything is repairable....$1500-2000? 1 Quote
TrampSteer Posted January 30, 2018 Author Report Posted January 30, 2018 Thought as much. Thanks for the info. Quote
RobertKB Posted January 30, 2018 Report Posted January 30, 2018 That panel van needs a whole lot of TLC. I'd start at a $1000 or less and work up if needed. Maybe someone wants to unload it. Also depends on how much you want it. 1 1 Quote
Brent B3B Posted January 30, 2018 Report Posted January 30, 2018 does the engine turn over by hand? hey, with the starter out of the way, you can sure fill up that brake fluid reservoir easier 1 1 Quote
TrampSteer Posted January 30, 2018 Author Report Posted January 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, Brent B3B said: does the engine turn over by hand? hey, with the starter out of the way, you can sure fill up that brake fluid reservoir easier LOL - thanks for pointing that out. Might pay extra for that feature ... Quote
Dozerman51 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Posted January 30, 2018 Looks like they changed out the rear axle. Appears to have a flanged axle shaft set up instead of the OEM tapered axel set up. Might have 3.91 ratio or better freeway gears in it. I’d also offer $1000.00. Poor thing needs beaucoup body work, but when done, would be a real eye catcher. Quote
Blue Posted January 31, 2018 Report Posted January 31, 2018 I agree with 1000 - 1500, if you are up to the metal work. Parts of it look really good and parts of it are sketchy. I would try 1000.00, but tell the seller they can keep the little plastic bowl that is sitting on the engine head. This may improve your bargaining position. 1 Quote
48Dodger Posted January 31, 2018 Report Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Panels are on the rare side.....this one is very rough. You have the VERY difficult parts to find, the rear fenders. Finding those fenders separated from a panel truck is almost impossible. Its either a 1948 or 1949 (E-brake gives it away). Everything from a 1/2 truck cab will fit/work on the front cab of a panel. The front clip is the same. The frame and running gear is the same too. Front and rear bumper are the same as the 1/2 ton trucks...but as always, the correct rear bumper is hard to find for 48-53 trucks. (this ones rear bumper is scabbed together and the front bumper is not original) The seats are unique to the panel truck alone....the ones in the picture are not original. All 48-49 panels should have come with stainless steel grille bars....these are missing (except for the brow bar, which is ss all years 48-50) A good replacement set is getting pricey in some circles..... There's extensive rust damage that is "plain to see" by the naked eye.....which means that the "unseen" is just as bad (frame, panel joints, etc.) Panels, in my opinion, are a labor of love and can be kinda spendy to repair. I'm sure it can be ratted up just fine, but I always wish that they're put back more to the original design......again, imo. $1400.00 Good find dude. Edited January 31, 2018 by 48Dodger 1 Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted January 31, 2018 Report Posted January 31, 2018 Mike; Not trying to rain on the parade...........but that is an awful lot of cancer for a SoCal vehicle. I have seen at least 3 or 4 for sale within a 50 mile radius in the last 5 years. So not super rare. And as Tim has already pointed out it is going to be very expensive to fix/repair. Under a grand and that is being generous. There is just too much high dollar stuff wrong to pay too much. Jeff 2 1 Quote
TrampSteer Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Jeff Balazs said: Mike;Not trying to rain on the parade...... There is just too much high dollar stuff wrong to pay too much. Jeff I know you are right about that. Guy showed up today finally and he wants to throw wads of cash at it. No chance to buy as we thought. So I'll watch and learn at least. And I'll pass on the good advice from you all to him. Sad it isn't mine, but I probably should get the rearend changed on mine first!!! Quote
TrampSteer Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Posted January 31, 2018 Anyone know if original seats still exist for this thing? Quote
Jeff Balazs Posted February 1, 2018 Report Posted February 1, 2018 Mike; Fwiw I think you probably dodged a bullet. I wonder if that is one that was on C/L in Costa Mesa about 3 or so years back. The seller was asking about $4k and the photos only showed it from the front and back...... Be patient there are better candidates & deals out there. When I first started looking there was a 57 3/4 ton that was a runner for $1200. Under close inspection it had a lot of cancer. Way too much to be a good deal. Jeff Quote
48Dodger Posted February 2, 2018 Report Posted February 2, 2018 If you're wanting to make one original...and the seats are missing...i don't know what else they were used on(in) to broaden the search. I would only say that the original seats aren't the safest available....lol No way I'm putting originals in my panel. 48D 1 Quote
TrampSteer Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, 48Dodger said: ... original seats aren't the safest available.... I think a motorcycle might be safer than this! Quote
pflaming Posted February 3, 2018 Report Posted February 3, 2018 38 minutes ago, TrampSteer said: safer 39 minutes ago, TrampSteer said: I think a motorcycle might be safer than this! Trampsteer, ever hear of a fatality in one of these? How about on a motorcycle? ? 39 minutes ago, TrampSteer said: 1 Quote
48Dodger Posted February 3, 2018 Report Posted February 3, 2018 That's a route van brother!!!! One of the first Independent Rear suspensions! Chop that roof and you got yourself a wicked scooter...hehe 48D 1 Quote
tinlizzy Posted February 7, 2018 Report Posted February 7, 2018 interesting radiator shroud, haven't seen one before Quote
Elwood Posted February 7, 2018 Report Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) On 2/3/2018 at 4:16 PM, 48Dodger said: That's a route van brother!!!! One of the first Independent Rear suspensions! Chop that roof and you got yourself a wicked scooter...hehe 48D The RouteVan does not have an independent rear suspension. It uses a solid beam axle, with leaf springs on both sides. The differential is rubber mounted to the frame, and the axle shafts have slip yokes and double universal joints to allow the driven hubs to move with the axle. The idea was to get the load floor of the body as close to the road as possible. This explains it: Edited February 7, 2018 by Elwood Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted February 8, 2018 Report Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) Deleted because of incorrect info post. Edited February 8, 2018 by Dodgeb4ya Posting incorrect info! Quote
Elwood Posted February 8, 2018 Report Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Dodgeb4ya said: Only the 'EU" series large 5 lug nut wheel Route Van is a swing axle rear end. The above MTSC film talks of this unique heavy duty swing axle setup. The 1 ton "DU" series lighter duty Route Van as shown earlier is just a six lug nut wheel one ton type chassis similar to the regular 1 ton pickups. The Route Van has a solid beam axle in the rear. Swing axles were used in early Corvairs, military M151 1/4-ton trucks, etc. and are truly independent rear suspensions, which the Route Van does not have. The Route Van in that MTSC video has the six lug wheels, and the frame-mounted differential, not the solid live axle like a pickup truck. I'd be interested in seeing some documentation that the DU Route Vans used a conventional solid live rear axle. Edited February 8, 2018 by Elwood Quote
48Dodger Posted February 8, 2018 Report Posted February 8, 2018 I understand how it works, what it looks like, I've worked with one before.....I still like calling it an IRS,( which in itself is a broad term). The Swing axle has been around since I believe 1903 and can be describe as a simple IRS. The route van has a solid axle that ties it together underneath, but still "stole" the swing axle concept to get what they needed. Just having some fun, not writing a tech article. 48D Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted February 8, 2018 Report Posted February 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Elwood said: The Route Van has a solid beam axle in the rear. Swing axles were used in early Corvairs, military M151 1/4-ton trucks, etc. and are truly independent rear suspensions, which the Route Van does not have. The Route Van in that MTSC video has the six lug wheels, and the frame-mounted differential, not the solid live axle like a pickup truck. I'd be interested in seeing some documentation that the DU Route Vans used a conventional solid live rear axle. You are 100% right... I am so wrong! I'm getting too old I guess. 1 Quote
Brent B3B Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 12 hours ago, 48Dodger said: I understand how it works, what it looks like, I've worked with one before.....I still like calling it an IRS,( which in itself is a broad term). The Swing axle has been around since I believe 1903 and can be describe as a simple IRS. The route van has a solid axle that ties it together underneath, but still "stole" the swing axle concept to get what they needed. Just having some fun, not writing a tech article. 48D "swing axle"? I've heard of a swing radiator support............ but never swing axle........... 1 1 Quote
Brent B3B Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 11 hours ago, Dodgeb4ya said: You are 100% right... I am so wrong! I'm getting too old I guess. LOL, TOO OLD!? I see it as you know too much..... bound to get things miss filed once in a while. 1 Quote
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