Attachment of Sill Seal

[Barry Maxwell]

The attached photo shows the passenger side sill plate of my '51 B3C and an end view of the sill seal from Roberts. My question is where and how does the seal attach? Should I use the screws that attach the sill plate, or attach it higher in the rough/mottled area just above the plate? Thanks for any input.

Barry

[Merle Coggins]

I believe it is supposed to be a "D" shaped seal that goes into the groove in the door. I couldn't find a correct seal so I just used self adhesive foam weather strip. It's not perfect but it works.

 

Merle

[Jim Shepard]

I hate to tell you, but no one makes either of the door sills.    The piece that attaches to the cab has a metal strip that screws into the side above the running board. Another piece mates to it and is attached to the door and is glued in the ridge. The two holes at the end of the doors is for the embedded push pins that hold the whole thing in place...

[ggdad1951]

I put mine on with the screws from the plate.

Jim I've never seen anything like that on ANY of the doors I have or seen in a yard. Everything was on the cab.

[NiftyFifty]

Yes, the screws are supposed to hold that rubber piece in, it also keeps that kick plate sealed to the cab so keep dirt from getting into the cab I believe

[Dodgeb4ya]

B3/B4 trucks have the seal attached to the sill plate as mentioned above with the plate and screws-rubber seall sandwiched between cad and sill plate panel.... not to the door as earlier models.

Bob

Edited April 24, 2015 by Dodgeb4ya

[MBF]

My 49 1 ton has it attached to the embossed horizontal groove in the door.   Looks like it was factory attached with some type of paper clamp type clips.   Mike

[Merle Coggins]

My 49 1 ton has it attached to the embossed horizontal groove in the door.   Looks like it was factory attached with some type of paper clamp type clips.   Mike

 

That's how my truck was too. I did hear that the B3's and B4's were different. Thanks you Bob for showing me how it's different.

 

Merle

[Barry Maxwell]

Thank you all for your responses. Particular thanks to Bob for his response and photo. I now know how to proceed.

Barry

[ggdad1951]

hmmm, now I gotta REALLY look at some B1/2 doors!

[Dodgeb4ya]

B1 and 2's do have the seal attached to the door. B3 and 4 series were designed probably as a better longer lasting seal design?

[Desotodav]

We must have done it different here in Oz as I have only seen trucks with that metal sill plate attached (spot-welded) to the cab and the rubber seal glued in the indent in the door.

[John-T-53]

The attached photo shows the passenger side sill plate of my '51 B3C and an end view of the sill seal from Roberts. My question is where and how does the seal attach? Should I use the screws that attach the sill plate, or attach it higher in the rough/mottled area just above the plate? Thanks for any input.

Barry

 

 

Barry:

 

Your sill filler panel is also shown mounted inside-out and down about 1" from where it should be. The top should be above the pitted area. Perhaps someone moved it down because the original holes have rusted out?

 

The only problem with this design is it allows dirt to collect in the "sandwiched" assembly of rubber and sheet metal, then when it all gets wet, and stays wet, you see what happens.

[Brent B3B]

Barry:

 

Your sill filler panel is also shown mounted inside-out and down about 1" from where it should be. The top should be above the pitted area. Perhaps someone moved it down because the original holes have rusted out?

 

The only problem with this design is it allows dirt to collect in the "sandwiched" assembly of rubber and sheet metal, then when it all gets wet, and stays wet, you see what happens.

good eye John!

Edited April 24, 2015 by Brent B3B

[Barry Maxwell]

Barry:

 

Your sill filler panel is also shown mounted inside-out and down about 1" from where it should be. The top should be above the pitted area. Perhaps someone moved it down because the original holes have rusted out?

 

The only problem with this design is it allows dirt to collect in the "sandwiched" assembly of rubber and sheet metal, then when it all gets wet, and stays wet, you see what happens.

John:

I don't understand what "inside-out" means. It is mounted exactly like it was when I bought the truck 5 years ago, and the sill plate is mounted in the same holes. Perhaps one of the previous owners made some changes that I am not aware of. In any event, it is a moot point now. I just finished the installation of the sill seal as shown in the attachment. The seal fits perfectly in the horizontal groove that you can see in the door. Even if it may be wrong, I am happy.

Barry

[ggdad1951]

Barry:

 

Your sill filler panel is also shown mounted inside-out and down about 1" from where it should be. The top should be above the pitted area. Perhaps someone moved it down because the original holes have rusted out?

 

The only problem with this design is it allows dirt to collect in the "sandwiched" assembly of rubber and sheet metal, then when it all gets wet, and stays wet, you see what happens.

 

simple...don't let it get wet!  

[Merle Coggins]

John:

I don't understand what "inside-out" means. It is mounted exactly like it was when I bought the truck 5 years ago, and the sill plate is mounted in the same holes. Perhaps one of the previous owners made some changes that I am not aware of. In any event, it is a moot point now. I just finished the installation of the sill seal as shown in the attachment. The seal fits perfectly in the horizontal groove that you can see in the door. Even if it may be wrong, I am happy.

BarryIMG_2488.JPG

 

Barry,

Look at the picture Bob posted. The bottom lip should be facing in, not out. And the dimples also go in instead of out like yours are. That's what John meant by "inside-out". The way yours is mounted we are seeing the back side.

[Barry Maxwell]

To All:

 

Wow, I sure screwed up this time!! Thanks to Bob, John, and Merle, I now see that I have the sill plate "inside-out" as John put it. A part of me want to leave it the way it is and pretend there is nothing wrong. A larger part of me, however, knows that I have to correct the problem I made for myself. Bummer! My next post and photo will have it correct (hopefully). Thanks again you guys. Boy, this hobby is sure "fun" (despite the bad days).

 

Barry

[NiftyFifty]

The rubber from Roberts can only go one way I thought? It's just round and the flat...I didn't see any dimples etc? Or am I missing something on Barry's?

[JBNeal]

additional information - B-3 / B-4 door seal 

Edited August 27, 2021 by JBNeal
revised link

[ggdad1951]

You can also find my video on door seals on FEF on one of the many posts about it. Totally stock placement.

[Barry Maxwell]

To All:

 

Wow, I sure screwed up this time!! Thanks to Bob, John, and Merle, I now see that I have the sill plate "inside-out" as John put it. A part of me want to leave it the way it is and pretend there is nothing wrong. A larger part of me, however, knows that I have to correct the problem I made for myself. Bummer! My next post and photo will have it correct (hopefully). Thanks again you guys. Boy, this hobby is sure "fun" (despite the bad days).

 

Barry

 

 

To All:

 

Well, I finally got it right this time, as the attachment shows. When I took the sill plate off and saw the two vertical flanges with holes that match up with the cab, I couldn't believe that I had such a horrendous brain fart when I installed it. Unfortunately, it happens with me on occasion. Thanks again you guys for helping me out.

 

Barry

 

 

         

[ggdad1951]

there ya go! 

 

And yep, the two doors I'm working on today for TODD (B1/2) have a seal on the door...never noticed that before.