vance1234 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Report Posted January 16, 2015 http://p15-d24.com/topic/53-lets-see-pic-of-your-trucks/page-5?hl=d150#entry218941 here is a link to one someone posted on here that is on a D150 frame Quote
NiftyFifty Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 Ya, you can see the front wheels sticking past fenders, that's the biggest issue with the full frame swap. Quote
Dave72dt Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 As far as the info on that other forum, I guess it depends on what you think looks right. Without pics of their trucks, I would question how "right" it looks on a D series chassis. The S10 chassis seems to be the "answer" to many frame swaps too. That frame is too narrow and places the tires way inside the fenderwell on these trucks. You've seen what the D series looks likes under a Pilothouse. There's ways to reduce the excess wheel width. There's some suspension swaps that may make more sense than this particular frame swap idea. Do a search on here for suspension swaps, front and rear. Either way, a lot of work for an experienced person and a good way to ruin a project for an inexperienced one. Quote
vance1234 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Report Posted January 17, 2015 Just looking. I plan on using the frame it is on, as long as I can get it going. But I do like to hear everybody's opinion and experiences. Keep them coming. Quote
vance1234 Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Posted January 19, 2015 O.K. Hooked up the 12 volt yesterday and it turned right over. So I am guessing since the 8 volt did not turn it over and the 12 volt did it is a 12 volt starter, right? I took the coil off and read the faint writing on it. It is a Ford coil and looks like it says 12 volt and says "for breatherless ignition with electronic coil." The wire that comes off the battery side of the coil goes into the wiring harness, the wire on the other side is not hooked to anything. The generator says 12 on the top of it, not sure if that means 12 volt or if that means anything else. On the voltage regulator, the wire on the right of the regulator, goes to the wiring harness. the middle and left wire on the voltage regulator go to the generator. When I hooked up the battery I hooked it up positive ground, and got no spark at the post, that is how I tuned it over. When I tried hooking it up negative ground I got some spark so I did not try to crank it that way. Does anybody know by my description if it sounds like it is positive ground and could it be the generator is 12 volt (did they make a 12 volt generator)? Quote
Young Ed Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 Yes they did make 12v generators. For mopar red tag 6v green tag 12v. They are also stamped on the tag. Quote
Dave72dt Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 6v or 8 on a 12 v starter won't work, 12v on a 6v or 12v starter will. Quote
vance1234 Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Posted January 19, 2015 Can anybody give me a quick reply and tell we where the wire on the distributor is suppose to go to? Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 if you are referring to the small wire that comes from the insulation on the distributor body..it will go to the coil..depending if you are positive or negative ground as to the terminal..the points within the distributor is the what takes the ignition circuit to ground....so whatever the polarity of your car..that is the polarity of the ground on coil circuit.. Quote
vance1234 Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Posted January 19, 2015 So if it is positive ground, the wire from the distributor should go to which contact? Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 I explained it above Vance...do you have a manual for your car...there is a schematic in the manual...perhaps that will help you with my explanation above... Quote
vance1234 Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Posted January 19, 2015 No. No manuel. Sorry to be simplistic. We are just trying to see if it has any fire right now. Just trying to see if it is still positive ground where the wire from the distributor should go to. Where Should the wire from the coil that says bat go to and the wire from the distributor go to? Quote
Don Coatney Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 vance1234, on 19 Jan 2015 - 2:45 PM, said:No. No manuel. Sorry to be simplistic. We are just trying to see if it has any fire right now. Just trying to see if it is still positive ground where the wire from the distributor should go to. Where Should the wire from the coil that says bat go to and the wire from the distributor go to? if you are referring to the small wire that comes from the insulation on the distributor body..it will go to the coil..depending if you are positive or negative ground as to the terminal..the points within the distributor is the what takes the ignition circuit to ground....so whatever the polarity of your car..that is the polarity of the ground on coil circuit.. Quote
Merle Coggins Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 For a positive ground system the positive (+) side of the coil is the ground, so you connect that terminal to the distributor wire. The Negative (-) side will go to your ignition switch to feed power to the coil. Merle Quote
vance1234 Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Posted January 19, 2015 Thanks! We are going to try another day. Thanks Mere, and Don and Plymouthy Adams. I just got frustrated with it. Being positive ground and short patience and all the frayed wiring has just got me frazzled. I just wanted it to fire off today. I am going to take a breath, buy some new points and a coil, and try next weekend maybe. If my dad was still alive he would be driving it down the road by now, but I did not inherit his mechanical ingenuity. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 actually it would not make a hill of beans one way or the other as long as one post is battery supply and thither is going to the distributor..any loss is so insignificant it is not worth mentioning..the biggest side effect you will see is that one way, the base contact will get a spike, in the other way, the moving contact will get the spike..it would be good for you to get a manual..it can actually help you protect the car in what maintenance you are doing and the book also points out many safety cautions/warning for the person doing the work...these are available at a fair price on e-bay..DO NOT get the CD copy..just too much effort to look things up and then you need to print a working copy etc etc....I have a couple working CD's that came with a car or two I bought..I just do not use them at all.. 1 Quote
NiftyFifty Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 Why not just print info out of the knowledge centre? Most of the real pertinent info is in there any time I've needed anything, the rest is pretty generic and can be found online in a lot of cases, or in old general automotive maintenance books at the library..... Quote
Don Coatney Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 Not having access to a service manual at ones fingertips reminds me of a true story. In one of the food plants I worked in there was one maintenance man who could not read. This guy was a skilled mechanic but simply could not read. Every time a new piece of equipment arrived and he was the first one to uncrate it he would make the instructions disappear. By doing so the playing field became level in his eyes as nobody had the upper hand. In short order management would order several copies of the instruction manual and give a copy to all mechanics prior to the equipment arrival. The end result was installation and repair efficiency on all equipment greatly improved when pertinent critical information was available to all. The cost of purchasing a manual is small compared to the time lost by not having the information in front of you. 1 Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 exactly Don...I have seen countless thousands of dollars of equipment ruined just because someone refused to use the tech manual..and it was available at the time...these techs were usually traded out to other locations as quickly as possible..de-mil was one such department...the object there WAS to destroy the equipment... Quote
NiftyFifty Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 But 90% of pertinent info IS available to print off from the knowledge centre, so it can be there when you need it. I've also seen people with manuals that are more dangerous thinking they can do the job because of it, never considering things not going as planned. It's all about your abilities and being able to admit something above your skill level. Quote
Don Coatney Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 Can you post directions to this knowledge center and the associated printer? I have never heard of it and have no idea where it is located. Quote
ggdad1951 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 lets keep to topic here guys. What someone does is up to them with whatever shortcoming there may or may not be. Not everyone works the same way. Personally I like having the manual, some don't. But for reference here is a link to "Pilot's Knowledge" which contains a PDF version of the parts manual and lots of other information. http://dodgepilothouseclub.com/know/know.htm 1 Quote
vance1234 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Posted January 20, 2015 I did not know about the Tech center, knowledge center, or associated printer. I will have to take a look at it., now that I have the link. I did not mean to start anything. I just like getting advice from you guys. Like I said though, if my dad was still here it would be going down the road by now. I just learn best by learning from others who have already done it or dealt with the issue. Pictures help too. Thanks. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 4mula-dlx, on 20 Jan 2015 - 1:34 PM, said:But 90% of pertinent info IS available to print off from the knowledge centre, so it can be there when you need it. I've also seen people with manuals that are more dangerous thinking they can do the job because of it, never considering things not going as planned. It's all about your abilities and being able to admit something above your skill level. you confusing folks....why is it any more dangerous for the owner of a manual as to that of the guy printing it off the knowledge center...if same is incapable of doing the work....that is probably the point some here are trying to make...and just think if nothing is being used for a reference the confusion that surely must abound...got no dog in that fight..just trying to keep that dog from biting someone in the butt is all..but then you have to be able to recognize heads from tails when you flip a coin... Quote
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