fordkustom Posted November 16, 2014 Report Posted November 16, 2014 ran accross this intake looking for an intake for my long block figured I would let you folks know. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Tattersfield-Plymouth-Dodge-Flathead-6-Dual-Carb-Intake-Hot-Rod-Rat-Rod-/371188405317?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item566c8d9445&vxp=mtr Quote
Lloyd Posted November 16, 2014 Report Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) That's cool, Id like to have it. At $400 including shipping, 3 days and 4 bids its already going to be expensive. Im going to watch just to see what it goes for. Theres also 2 Ammcco 1750 on there as well going for around $350-$375 apiece. Edited November 16, 2014 by Lloyd Quote
Dodgeb4ya Posted November 17, 2014 Report Posted November 17, 2014 And another for a Ply?dodge.....even more$$$$http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-EDMUNDS-Dual-Carb-2X1s-ALUMINUM-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-1937-1958-Mopar-23-/390975338962?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5b07f239d2&vxp=mtr Quote
fordkustom Posted November 17, 2014 Author Report Posted November 17, 2014 yeah I saw that edmunds a couple days ago and would jump on it if it would fit my block Quote
dwest999 Posted November 17, 2014 Report Posted November 17, 2014 That Tattersfield is for a 23" right... Also I just sold an amazing Edmunds intake on the HAMB last week. It was absolutely beautiful; however I am leaning toward an Asche. 1 Quote
fordkustom Posted November 17, 2014 Author Report Posted November 17, 2014 I would guess its for a 23 most after market speed parts are I have had a hard time finding anything for the 25" the last one that came up for bid I lost by 20 dollars Quote
Don Coatney Posted November 17, 2014 Report Posted November 17, 2014 fordkustom, on 17 Nov 2014 - 3:55 PM, said:I would guess its for a 23 most after market speed parts are I have had a hard time finding anything for the 25" the last one that came up for bid I lost by 20 dollars What parts are you looking for that fit a long block 25" engine? 1 Quote
fordkustom Posted November 17, 2014 Author Report Posted November 17, 2014 Mianly a dual carb intake and split headers. I was trying for that factory intake that was on ebay last month. I am interested in doing a more "traditional" hot rod I spoke to moose about possibly going with one of his custom intakes but I am a bit concerned that I need the coolant heated option I live in Utah and a local mopar guy with a 230 said the carbs have a tendancy to freeze up without the coolant run through the intake. My block has been completely redone but I didnt think about regrinding the cam but it has:New PistonsNew RingsCrank TurnedValve Seats Ground/SurfacedNew ValvesNew Valve Guides.Head Milled-SurfacedBlock Deck SurfacedNew Rod & Main BearingsNew Cam BearingsFlywheel Surfaced Quote
plyroadking Posted November 17, 2014 Report Posted November 17, 2014 There is/was a factory dual setup for the 25 inch block in a wreaking yard in Napa CA, I've talked with the owner over the years and he has come down to $2,500 for the intake/exhaust manifolds, carbs, air cleaners, and linkage. I still think i'd be better off looking for my own dump truck with the parts. 1 Quote
Don Coatney Posted November 17, 2014 Report Posted November 17, 2014 fordkustom, on 17 Nov 2014 - 5:55 PM, said: Mainly a dual carb intake and split headers. Give George Asche a call. George Asche Jr. 1693 Fertigs Road Venus, Pa. 16364 814-354-2621 No web site. 1 Quote
austinsailor Posted November 18, 2014 Report Posted November 18, 2014 Langdon made me a set of long block headers for about $300, pretty nice work. He was going to make so many and quit, I think when he ran out of flanges. You might give him a call. I'm tempted to get another set. 1 Quote
fordkustom Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Posted November 19, 2014 Thank you Don Coatney, I called George today and we talked for an hour great wealth of knowledge and great ideas for tips and tricks. I had no idea these blocks had that kind of potential! 1 Quote
deathbound Posted November 20, 2014 Report Posted November 20, 2014 The Tattersfield intake sold for $810 + shipping! Here's the long block intake your looking for....better sit down, unless it's on your watch list already. (Keep in mind, it does include air cleaners.) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Edmunds-Original-Chrys-Flat-6-Dual-Intake-Manifold-and-Two-Edmunds-Air-Cleaners/111483144579?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27538%26meid%3D2cfdb1a136dd4415b9fe0dc5deb2a13d%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D11353%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D371188405317 Quote
DJ194950 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Posted November 20, 2014 Free shipping must also be taken into account! Quote
Don Coatney Posted November 20, 2014 Report Posted November 20, 2014 DJ194950, on 20 Nov 2014 - 5:37 PM, said:Free shipping must also be taken into account! I was under the understanding you had to buy it before you can ask for the free shipping benefit. Quote
T120 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) The Tattersfield intake sold for $810 + shipping! Here's the long block intake your looking for....better sit down, unless it's on your watch list already. (Keep in mind, it does include air cleaners.) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Edmunds-Original-Chrys-Flat-6-Dual-Intake-Manifold-and-Two-Edmunds-Air-Cleaners/111483144579?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27538%26meid%3D2cfdb1a136dd4415b9fe0dc5deb2a13d%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D11353%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D371188405317 I would question the application of the Edmunds Intake described in this ebay ad, although I rather like the air cleaners...This is what the length should be for a 25" block (my parts) Edited November 20, 2014 by Ralph D25cpe Quote
deathbound Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 I would question the application of the Edmunds Intake described in this ebay ad, although I rather like the air cleaners...This is what the length should be for a 25" block (my parts) Edmunds Intake -1.JPG Edmunds Intake -3.JPG Edmunds Intake -2.JPG Looks like the 1 in the ad.....pic w/tape measure shows almost 20"....center of outer port to center of outer port. Maybe I'm not getting it? Quote
dwest999 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 $2100 bucks, dang I gave the one I sold a few weeks ago for $600 Quote
T120 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 Looks like the 1 in the ad.....pic w/tape measure shows almost 20"....center of outer port to center of outer port. Maybe I'm not getting it? I measured the overall length of the one I have at 19 3/4" ,ctr-ctr of outer ports at 16 5/8" .The intake in the ebay ad appeared to me to be longer... Quote
austinsailor Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 And I bought one recently for $250! Didn't know what a deal I got! Gene 1 Quote
deathbound Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 I measured the overall length of the one I have at 19 3/4" ,ctr-ctr of outer ports at 16 5/8" .The intake in the ebay ad appeared to me to be longer... That's why I posted the link...the original poster is/was looking for 1 for a long block. At that price, I'd wait. Vintage speed equipment isn't cheap, sure there are deals occasionally. With more people getting into it & less of it available, the prices keep going up. I'm sure a lot of the guys who have been around a long time have stories, getting this or that for $10 & now that same part sells for $500+....maybe 50 years from now, their son or grandson will get $2500 for that same part. Another example of supply & demand, pay to play, etc. Quote
timkingsbury Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 Hi Guys - I just cant help but jump into this conversation. At the prices being tossed out for the Canadian 25" big block engines, for the dual carb truck intake and exhaust setups, lol, I might consider freeing up a couple ! As mentioned, here is a picture of George Asche and My Dad and I's creation which is a triple carb intake for the big blocks. Because you get equal flow of fuel into each of the siamese ports you actually can use smaller lets and get better fuel mileage as long as you keep your foot off the floor. Or if you step on it you definately get an increase in torque and power. I have attached a picture. I think we have 20 or 30 of them out on in the field, and of course we run it in our rear engine dragster as well I run it in my 1949 plymouth business coupe. Here is a link to a couple of videos I put up of the 1st real firing of both the dragster engine which spins north of 7000 rpm and my plymouth. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8y7yB5J7YNWI2Rnnvn8rig/feed?view_as=public They both have the exact same intakes. Because there are so many different versions of the carter ball and ball carbs, you can lower or raise the cfm by what carbs you use even if you want to stick with rock stock carbs. The big key is having all of the carbs exactly the same. Now on the small block, George as a few have mentioned does make dual carb intakes and split exhaust out of stock intakes and exhausts. They are awesome and have really good performance results. We have been asked quite a few times about making a dual carb intake for the small block, similar to our AoK triple. I say similar as the performance way exceeds the triple carb edmunds. On the dual carb intake front the tattersfield looks cool but really doesnt have the performance of the edmunds. You get more torque than stock but the rpm is not close to the Edmunds. The offy has all kinds of rev but less torque than stock. As well all of the dual carb intakes for the 23inch small blocks dont allow for older engines or trucks which run linkage differently than the later model cars and there is no spots on the intake to bolt linkage. When I read this forum and some of the prices being tossed around, maybe there is a market for a small block AoK dual carb intake. While we have a ton of the work and research completed with both our triple and having flowed and tested all the various dual carb setups out there, there is still a fair amount of work required to bring a dual carb intake to market. So my question to you guys is do you see a market and at what price ? Would you buy one at $500 +,$500, $450,$400 $350 or under $350 ? The difference in pricing really would be based on volume needed to bring it to market. If we need to be able to bring them to market at $500 vs under $350 we we would need to have a much smaller market. For our triple, we were building it, and cost wasnt the factor as we really didnt build it as a product to sell. It was for ourselves and the selling of them was definately a secondary consideration. But to do a triple at this point, it would need to be based on a product we were bringing to market. So guys - sorry to bend your ear so much. If you are interested you can certainly drop me a note, or give me or George a call. George\s number was posted earlier and my number is 519-766-5695 and my email is fargopickupking@yahoo.com Thanks for your time Tim Kingsbury (or also known as the K in AoK.. lol) 1 Quote
greg g Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 good to hear from you. Was mentioned that George wasn't doing well awhile back, how is he feeling these days? We all hope he is hale and hardy as well as the rest of the AoK groupe. As your are documenting characteristics of the competing intakes what are your thoughts on the Fenton set up? Quote
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