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[eddie27]

I wasn't sure where to post this. I just wanted to make sure it was seen by all. Mods feel free to move this anywhere you want.

 

I recently posted a want ad for flywheel / clutch cover in the classified section here. On Monday I got a reply from a Richard Claycomb as follows:

 

Please let me know if you are still in need of the above and I'll get back to you. What's your phone # ?

Many thanks,

Richard Claycomb
Richard Auto Shop,
Belle Vernon, PA 15012
USA.

 

I replied back saying I was interested and to email me the specifics and yesterday I got this:

 

Hi Chris,

 Thanks for writing, I have a 37 P4 flywheel / clutch cover for sale in excellent condition and shape. I am asking a $150 shipped. Asking price includes shipping via UPS or FedEx which ever you prefer, and l'll accept payment via Western union or Moneygram. What's your complete shipping address ?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

I asked for a photo and today I got another reply....

 

I do not have a photo of the cover but not to worry on condition as is excellent. Let me know and get back to me with your complete shipping address .

 

Thanks,

 

Richard

 

For those who don't know, Western Union and Moneygram are untraceable and usually when you use them you end up losing your money. Please be careful when sending money to anyone using these services. I am sure if he sees this he will use a different name and email, but he will always ask money to be sent Western Union and/or Moneygram. I just would hate to see anyone on here get their hard earned money stolen by whoever this SCUMBAG is.

Edited November 7, 2014 by eddie27

[seabee1950]

Hi Eddie

Thanks for the heads up, to many people get tricked by these things.

[P15-D24]

As always caveat emptor...  That said the internet can help sniff out these guys. A quick google search shows no such business in Belle Vernon and no phone number for Richard Auto Shop. 

[Robin (UK)]

This is an email I received in response to a Wanted ad.
Almost identical, signed Moses Cordoba.
I smelt a rat immediately, and asked for pictures and his user name on the Forum.
As suspected, I got no reply.


Hi Robin,

Thanks for writing, I have a DeSoto SP15 Dash Badge for sale in excellent condition and decent shape. I am asking a $140 for it shipped. Asking price includes shipping via UPS or FedEx which ever you prefer, and l'll accept payment via Western union or Moneygram. What's your complete shipping address ?

Thanks,

Moses

Edited November 7, 2014 by Robin (UK)

[eddie27]

As always caveat emptor...  That said the internet can help sniff out these guys. A quick google search shows no such business in Belle Vernon and no phone number for Richard Auto Shop. 

Although I knew he was a fake as soon as I saw the words Western Union... I did try to look up the business but also found nothing. From Robin's post it seems he is using different names and probably emails. I only posted this because I don't want to see this loser get one cent from anyone here.

[Skrambler]

His town is just down the road from me, if in fact he is actually there.

Thanks for your posting.

[Plymouthy Adams]

Skrambler, on 07 Nov 2014 - 07:48 AM, said:

His town is just down the road from me, if in fact he is actually there.

Thanks for your posting.

if the town is real. the person is real. the business is real..why not make a "real" appearance on the thread and introduce yourself if you wish to sell parts to members...maybe you can pass this 'real' life take on the subject to the business in question..clear up a lot of 'iffys' quick I would think...

[eddie27]

His town is just down the road from me, if in fact he is actually there.

Thanks for your posting.

I doubt he is there.... Might not even be in the country. From what i understand these people make their living by going to all kinds of forums like this one and find want ads and reply to them. If they can get one person a day to send them $100- $200, it turns into a pretty profitable scam. Wish there was a way to track the emails and have them arrested.

Edited November 7, 2014 by eddie27

[Don Coatney]

This IP tracking link was posted here a while back. I have never tried it but if you have his e-mail address you might be able to find him.

 

http://www.ip-tracker.org/

[eddie27]

This IP tracking link was posted here a while back. I have never tried it but if you have his e-mail address you might be able to find him.

 

http://www.ip-tracker.org/

The email address is richardautoshop34@gmail.com

Don't know a tracker that works with gmail, hotmail, yahoo etc email addresses.

[TodFitch]

The email address is richardautoshop34@gmail.com

Don't know a tracker that works with gmail, hotmail, yahoo etc email addresses.

 

 

Hmmm. I was going to say gmail kept that type of information but just checked the headers on some email I received from a gmail account holder and found that it came from a 10.x.x.x IP address which is a local non-routable address (i.e. someone on a local area network that can't be traced). So it is not possible for me to say exactly where that mail came from.

 

However it was signed by Google implying that they were satisfied that the sender was appropriately logged into their system. So they know who it was. Might need a court order to reveal that information which won't do you much good but maybe a complaint to Google/gmail might be accepted and lodged against the account.

[eddie27]

Ha..... This is the photo he sent me. Looks like NOS for a 37 Plymouth, don't you think?

 

[eddie27]

My reply to him... I'll bet he turns this down quickly

 

NICE!!!! Just had a thought. Belle Vernon isn’t too far from here. I can just drive over and pick it up tomorrow and pay with cash. What is your address?

 

Chris

Edited November 7, 2014 by eddie27

[mopardude]

Just throwing my name in there, he sent an identical email to me with the same price and everything. He sent it for an access plate for the master cylinder on my '42.

[1941Rick]

I guess the days of trusting our fellow man is long gone......to bad.

Buying and selling on line is getting too risky. Best way is touch it then pay cash.

Even if you find this clown not much happens. Unless I find him....lol

[eddie27]

Just emailed him again....

 

Richard,

 

Still waiting on your reply. I can be in your area around noon. Come on Richard (or should I call you Dick?)… I don’t have all day.

 

Chris

[Don Coatney]

He asked for your phone number. Did you ask for his?

[eddie27]

He asked for your phone number. Did you ask for his?

No I didn't. I should have let him call me. Phone number might have been easier to trace than an email.

[TodFitch]

No I didn't. I should have let him call me. Phone number might have been easier to trace than an email.

Phone numbers are pretty easy to fake nowadays. . . With an appropriately compliant Voice Over IP (VoIP) provider you can set any caller ID you want on a call.

 

Not sure how many old car parts scammers are up on that, but I certainly get more than a few calls per month where the caller ID number seems to have been faked.

[Tom Skinner]

Was his name Richard Cranium?

L.O.L.

[eddie27]

Phone numbers are pretty easy to fake nowadays. . . With an appropriately compliant Voice Over IP (VoIP) provider you can set any caller ID you want on a call.

 

Not sure how many old car parts scammers are up on that, but I certainly get more than a few calls per month where the caller ID number seems to have been faked.

I wonder if he is just a car parts scammer.... He might get on all kinds of forums and say... I have what you are looking for.... Send me $150 and I will ship it to you.

[Plymouthy Adams]

we have a guy going by that name on the B body forum...

[AlDeBear]

I think we have a new/new named scammer guys. The email didn't come as a 'notification' from p15-d24 but directly to my email address. Is that necessarily a clue that the messenger is a scammer?

***************************************************************************************

David Wilson

To

me

 

Today at 9:01 AM

 

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Please let me know if you are still interested in purchasing a Master Cylinder Cover 1948 P15. Email and I'll get back to you.

Cheers
David W Green
Loretto Tennessee 38469

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[_shel_ny]

That would not for sure make it a scammer. The classifieds are available for viewing by guests. Guest can not contact you via P15D24 reply.  Your email contact information is available for guests, so a guest, or a member can actually contact you directly.

 

That said, it could still be a scammer, but that's your call. 

[Don Coatney]

Send the guy a reply. He may be legit.

 

http://www.whitepages.com/name/David-W-Green/Lawrenceburg-TN/ax34136

 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Loretto,+TN+38469/@35.1403912,-87.2465083,9z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8862d138532dbf6d:0xa376c7ddd0f86e9e