Robert Horne Posted June 18, 2014 Report Posted June 18, 2014 I drove a new Dodge Journey today, that had the 3.6, a big WOW with this engine. The paper say 283hp, but feels more like 200, but still a great product.... Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted June 18, 2014 Report Posted June 18, 2014 you will find the advertised 283 HP is well upon the high end of the RPM scale...my 3.7 Power Tech Dodge engine I am putting in the bz cp has this power curve chart..while not a rocket engine, it is still yet no slouch..plenty of performance and with boasting of economy at the same time..especially with the 5 speed OD manual...notice how the torque is fairly flat across the spectrum..but HP is moderate till upper side of 4000 rpm 200 ft lb @ 1200 and 100 hp212 ft lb @ 2000 and 120 hp220 ft lb @ 2400 and 120 hp218 ft lb @ 2800 and 118 hp210 ft lb @ 3200 and 138 hp235 ft lb @ 3600 and 140 hp235 ft lb @ 4000 and 178 hp225 ft lb @ 4400 and 186 hp222 ft lb @ 4800 and 208 hp216 ft lb @ 5200 and 210 hp Quote
Robert Horne Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 The torque numbers are amazing on the 3.7. The new Dodge Journey with the 3.6 has a 6 speed automatic trans. drives great... Quote
fstfish66 Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 3.9 v 6 seems hard to find,,i was looking for a while,,,just for the heck of it i once had a 3.9 dakota 5 speed manual had plenty of power,,,also seems hard to find the mopar 4 bbl intake for the 3.9...i bet some of those got tossed,,,would be a kool swap for sure plenty of engine bay room and power to boot Quote
Robert Horne Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 Yesterday, my friend brought over his new Dodge Ram with the 3.6/automatic. Drove real nice, plenty of get up and go, trans very smooth. Sure would like to have a setup like that in one of my Plymouths, but I am happy with my 82hp/5speed setup,,,,,,for now................... Quote
Lumpy Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 I'm a fan of the flathead six. Sure would be easy to rebuild it, shave the head a bit and put a couple of carbs on it. Or lightly turbo charge it. I think the wow factor with a flathead is above and beyond that of any modern engine transplant. Nothing out-cools a flathead. And going the way of the transplant is at best always a hard, long, and expensive journey. Sorry, just had to say it! Sorry sorry sorry. Having said that, I believe the slant six makes the most sense. Someone (I forget who) on this forum has done it, and knows the way. k. 1 Quote
55 Fargo Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 I'm a fan of the flathead six. Sure would be easy to rebuild it, shave the head a bit and put a couple of carbs on it. Or lightly turbo charge it. I think the wow factor with a flathead is above and beyond that of any modern engine transplant. Nothing out-cools a flathead. And going the way of the transplant is at best always a hard, long, and expensive journey. Sorry, just had to say it! Sorry sorry sorry. Having said that, I believe the slant six makes the most sense. Someone (I forget who) on this forum has done it, and knows the way. k. 265 engine, shaved head, bored .080 over, cam grind, triple intake and dual dump exhaust, that could very well light the tires up.... I am no expert, but there are others who have made these engines go......... 1 Quote
old rat 49 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 I had a /6 super with a 390 carb, headers, shaved head etc and it ran great in an old Dodge D100 pu. . But would like to go to a modern V6 in my P15. Plymouthy: what doner vehicle did you use for your car and did you use the rear end also. I am thinking about just buying a doner so I can use everything from it. Just want a modern reliable drivetrain for pulling one of my small vintage campers safely down the road. Quote
51cambridge Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 My 51 has the slant 6 put in it. see my sig. below for pictures. I didnt do this. The hard part was crossmember. Quote
1941Rick Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Posted June 29, 2014 My problem with the slant 6 is the engine bay is not long enough. Even after moving the rad forward. The cross member would be the easy part. Firewall and rad mods would be most of the work. Quote
Lumpy Posted June 30, 2014 Report Posted June 30, 2014 What is unreliable about a flathead six? ken. Quote
Plymouthy Adams Posted June 30, 2014 Report Posted June 30, 2014 did anyone mention unreliable...I do not think so...but as with most things..there are those that like a bit different powerplant and to that end..full steam ahead... Quote
Niel Hoback Posted June 30, 2014 Report Posted June 30, 2014 There is no better and accurate sales slogan than "Dodge dependability". The perfect and honest description. Quote
1941Rick Posted June 30, 2014 Author Report Posted June 30, 2014 Yes they are bullet proof.....drove mine for 1500 miles with crank and rod bearings that were loosing thier babit. Crank was good, just rolled in a NEW set of bearings. According to an advisor to the Plymouth Club of America, back in the late 40's and 50's there was lots of faulty bearings around. I rebuilt this engine 5 years ago with NOS bearings......mistake.......3000 miles and bearings started to fail. I wrote off the ticking noise to valve setting and put lots of miles...... Quote
Tresmaddox Posted July 1, 2014 Report Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Hi, this is my first post on this forum.I've got a 1948 Plymouth sedan thats getting a 2006 3.5L dodge charger drivetrain swapped into it. My plymouth came with no motor or transmission, so this will be a full drivetrain swap from the engine to the rear subframe.I've got the entire wiring harness and all the computers as well. Edited July 1, 2014 by Tresmaddox 1 Quote
fstfish66 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 Hi, this is my first post on this forum. I've got a 1948 Plymouth sedan thats getting a 2006 3.5L dodge charger drivetrain swapped into it. My plymouth came with no motor or transmission, so this will be a full drivetrain swap from the engine to the rear subframe. I've got the entire wiring harness and all the computers as well. nice cant wait to hear more,,,, Quote
wayfarer Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) Hi, this is my first post on this forum. I've got a 1948 Plymouth sedan thats getting a 2006 3.5L dodge charger drivetrain swapped into it. My plymouth came with no motor or transmission, so this will be a full drivetrain swap from the engine to the rear subframe. I've got the entire wiring harness and all the computers as well. Are you planning on posting a build thread? Edited July 5, 2014 by wayfarer Quote
Tresmaddox Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 Yes I will as I make more progress into it. I'd like to do the laser scans of my front end first and cad up some motor mount brackets before I start a thread. Quote
bbbbbb99 Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 Yesterday, my friend brought over his new Dodge Ram with the 3.6/automatic. Drove real nice, plenty of get up and go, trans very smooth. Sure would like to have a setup like that in one of my Plymouths, but I am happy with my 82hp/5speed setup,,,,,,for now................... I just trade in for a 21014 Ram 1500 with that setup. So far I'm really pleased. GREAT gas mileage and it gets up and out of the way when needed. Quote
fstfish66 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 2014 ram,, hemi 4x4 pretty nice so far Quote
greg g Posted July 16, 2014 Report Posted July 16, 2014 Yes I will as I make more progress into it. I'd like to do the laser scans of my front end first and cad up some motor mount brackets before I start a thread. If you are going to retain your car's stock steering system, conventional wisdom dictates offsetting the engine 2 inches, give or take, to the passenger side. The offset is not noticeable when all is bolted together. As a matter of fact Mother MOPAR did the same when craming v8's into A bodies. Quote
Tresmaddox Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 I'll be swapping to an offset box to bring the steering under the motor, and using the power rack from the charger Quote
fstfish66 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 I'll be swapping to an offset box to bring the steering under the motor, and using the power rack from the charger charger rack sounds interesting,,,im assumeing it is a rear steer ?? Quote
falconvan Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 Modern V6 engines run great and make far more power than the V8s of the late 70s and 80s. I have a Taurus SHO 3.2 V6 in my 49 Plymouth and it's rated at the same HP as the 454 in my old 88 Chevy truck I used to have! Other than the challenge of figuring out the ECM wiring, it was easy and a great swap. I'm glad I did it, modern EFI is really nice to have on these old cars. Quote
fstfish66 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Modern V6 engines run great and make far more power than the V8s of the late 70s and 80s. I have a Taurus SHO 3.2 V6 in my 49 Plymouth and it's rated at the same HP as the 454 in my old 88 Chevy truck I used to have! Other than the challenge of figuring out the ECM wiring, it was easy and a great swap. I'm glad I did it, modern EFI is really nice to have on these old cars. sounds kool Quote
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